dermal melasma - Page 4

salma · 08-11-2009, 01:37 PM

HI guys i have asian skin and i used meladerm cream and mine melasma got more wors ,i have bought two cream but after one month my melasma becom more darker and mor dark patches came arround my eye corner area really i am not happy to use this cream

salma · 08-11-2009, 01:50 PM

HI GUYS
I have used meladem cream for my melsma, i boght tow cream but freinds after one month
my melsma got more darker and even i got more dark patches arround my eye corner area
`.i dont

bsphong · 08-12-2009, 08:10 AM

Originally Posted by martha

I have been battleing dermal melasma for about 3 years. Originaly I tried all the over the counter creams with hydroqnone (spelling?) but they did nothing. My doctor also had me try some chemical peels which only made my skin red. She used a special lamp and told me that the pigment in my skin is dermal which means deep in the skin.

Has anyone else been diagnosed with dermal melasma? Is there any hope?

Hello
As what you say I think you got a melasma which is very difficult to treat. You had been applied Hydroqinone for a long time, and then applied chemical Peels but the results are not as expected.
You should understand that melasma is still a medical proplem. Result of melasma treatment is dependent many fators not only the depth of melasma in skin but the ages of patient, endocrine state, race..... Effectiveness of treatment is not uniform. There are many regimes for melasma, the first choice is still topical drugs. Triluma is combination of three drugs (Hydroqinone, Tretinoin, Fluocinolon) which is used more six months maybe make a good result. But It's effectiveness is variant and high recurent . less than seventy percent of patient show significant improvement. the second line is combination complex of drugs with lasers and lights. Now, these methods are available in most beauty Clinic. IPL, PDT, Nd: YAG laser, KPT..., sometime with chemical peel. There is a publication reported from Thailand show the significant improvement even in refratory cases by demabration.
I think you should contact with a cosmetic doctor or dermatologist whom clinic have available equipments as mentioned above. And If not improve, you should go to Asian cosmetic clinics at Thailand or Vietnam (also a tour visit

).
Goodlucks

salma · 08-12-2009, 08:07 PM

HI i am 38 years old and i have olive colour skin i hve melsma on my entire face ,one month ago i had peel in clinic after that my melasma got more darker even i have got more darker patches on other area i used so many cream expensive one but i am a failear person and very dipress about my condition now i am not goin out i dont want to meat with
people pls freinds help me ,my all body is really very good but my face

salma · 08-12-2009, 08:13 PM

I have one botel of meladerm cream if any one wants i wiil give free of charge just i need
post and pckage fee . i am living in uk

salma · 08-13-2009, 03:24 PM

HI freinds

bsphong · 08-14-2009, 12:40 AM

Originally Posted by salma

HI i am 38 years old and i have olive colour skin i hve melsma on my entire face ,one month ago i had peel in clinic after that my melasma got more darker even i have got more darker patches on other area i used so many cream expensive one but i am a failear person and very dipress about my condition now i am not goin out i dont want to meat with
people pls freinds help me ,my all body is really very good but my face

Dear Salma.
As you mentioned your skin is olive I think it maybe Fitzpatrick type III, IV (easy dark). So I can explain your case in some ways. First is more contrast between new normal skin layer, which is look better, and melasma areas after peel. Second is postinflamation hyperpigment which occur easily in your olive skin even thought avoiding sunlight strictly. Fortunately, postinflamation hyperpigment will fade progessively after some months with topical lightening complexes.
In your case, I think you should been applied a regime include of Laser and Lights techniques plus lightening drugs such as Triluma. Because I donn't know the type of chemical peel was applied (superficial, medium or deep) so the best is now apply topical Hidroquinone, Anzela... for six months and reevaluate after that.

salma · 08-14-2009, 11:33 AM

DEAR bsphong
thank you for your advise yeh i already order Triluma ,now i am praying that this cream work for me,thanks again.

bsphong · 08-16-2009, 05:04 AM

Originally Posted by salma

DEAR bsphong
thank you for your advise yeh i already order Triluma ,now i am praying that this cream work for me,thanks again.

Dear Salma
Thank for following my suggestion.
You should remember that avoiding sunlight is very impotant. I suggest you should take sunscreen with SPF > 25, apply it anytimes you go out home.
About Triluma, you apply it very thin and gentle at full face everynight. Wash gently your face by 70% alchohol or cetaphil solution before apply Triluma to remove oil and death cells, increase penetration of the drugs.
You can get make-up to fade the pigment contrast.
Don't worry. It will better after few months.

Karenvenice · 08-17-2009, 11:02 AM

Are you kidding me? Triluma has already been proven to cause much of the damage to people suffering from Melasma. I used triluma for an entire year--prescribed by Dr. Lancer, dermatologist to the stars...In any event, stars or no stars, his recommendation proved to be harmful and as a result the melasma became gray and darker. Read about the effects of triluma online and you can decide for yourself. I for one had freckle-like stains on my face but after one whole year of triluma they are gray and ugly.
Also, for some strange reason I see that my post from two months ago never made it to the site, I wonder whether it's because I named a website. In any event it was a response to a question that I was asked by one of you, you wanted to know how to order my citrus treatment and I referred you to the site. I guess I can't do it on this blog. I wasn't trying to promote anything that I can profit from, this was a site that I was told about by a relative who knows that I suffer from melasma, and I have no connection to the site whatsoever. I thought that this blog was supposed to aid and help solve our problems so I'm a bit perplexed by the absence of my response.

bsphong · 08-17-2009, 11:40 PM

Originally Posted by Karenvenice

Are you kidding me? Triluma has already been proven to cause much of the damage to people suffering from Melasma. I used triluma for an entire year--prescribed by Dr. Lancer, dermatologist to the stars...In any event, stars or no stars, his recommendation proved to be harmful and as a result the melasma became gray and darker. Read about the effects of triluma online and you can decide for yourself. I for one had freckle-like stains on my face but after one whole year of triluma they are gray and ugly.
Also, for some strange reason I see that my post from two months ago never made it to the site, I wonder whether it's because I named a website. In any event it was a response to a question that I was asked by one of you, you wanted to know how to order my citrus treatment and I referred you to the site. I guess I can't do it on this blog. I wasn't trying to promote anything that I can profit from, this was a site that I was told about by a relative who knows that I suffer from melasma, and I have no connection to the site whatsoever. I thought that this blog was supposed to aid and help solve our problems so I'm a bit perplexed by the absence of my response.

Dear Karenvenice
First, I sympathize with your complains.
But as you know that Nothing is absolute, especially in medicine. There are so many things now still unknown or unexplained and scientist now patiently, scientifically working to obtain the best things for the battle against diseases.
You should understand that melasma is now a complex condition. There many regimes suggested and many new drugs are been investigating. But no regimes show a perfect effectiveness and a regime which combining some methods (drugs, lasers, lights, dermabration...) seem show better, even combining with herbs (alternative medicine).
About Triluma. I don't know what protocol was given by your doctor and How you followed that? But as you said it's worse and you concluded that it's harmful. But I don't think so. Many published reports showed that the lightening complexes (Hydroquinone, Tretinoin, Fluocinolone) is more effective than a single drug or other combinations although less than 70% approved a moderate or significant improvement.
Now. Triluma, which include above three drugs, is used to prevent a postinflammative hyperpigment after a procedure on the skin. It's applied full-face at least two weeks before make a skin procedure and re-applied 3-5 days after that for some months.
Sometimes increasing contrast pigment between normal skin and melasma after applying Triluma make uncomplains. But as I mentioned, the effectiveness of Triluma is less than 70% and combining with other methods is important.
Final, avoiding sunlight is very important.
Thanks and best wishs

Karenvenice · 08-24-2009, 03:50 AM

Okay, responding to the last comment about Triluma. I realize that all of us on this forum are just trying to get the best possible answers to something that is troubling all of us. Therefore, it is not my intention to disprove anyone's findings, merely to shed light on my own experiences and thus to maybe enlighten others. I was not the one who deduced that the triluma made my skin worse---it was the doctors who treated my condition over the years who have stopped prescribing it because it's been proven to cause more damage than help. Under the same token, bleaching creams that I used to get from my dermatologists in LA have now been changed from 8% to 4% dosage because of the high concentration of hydroquinone which now has been directly linked to mercury poisoning, other abnormalities of the skin, and potentially cancer. In Europe Japan and Australia for example hydroquinone use has been banned completely...If there is already proof out there that puts us on guard as to the potential danger involved in using certain products, I for one will look in another direction in order to help solve my problems. All you have to do is go to a reputable dermatologist and do some research yourself online---read the information intelligently.

nyc1458 · 09-03-2009, 07:47 AM

Originally Posted by Karenvenice

Okay, responding to the last comment about Triluma. I realize that all of us on this forum are just trying to get the best possible answers to something that is troubling all of us. Therefore, it is not my intention to disprove anyone's findings, merely to shed light on my own experiences and thus to maybe enlighten others. I was not the one who deduced that the triluma made my skin worse---it was the doctors who treated my condition over the years who have stopped prescribing it because it's been proven to cause more damage than help. Under the same token, bleaching creams that I used to get from my dermatologists in LA have now been changed from 8% to 4% dosage because of the high concentration of hydroquinone which now has been directly linked to mercury poisoning, other abnormalities of the skin, and potentially cancer. In Europe Japan and Australia for example hydroquinone use has been banned completely...If there is already proof out there that puts us on guard as to the potential danger involved in using certain products, I for one will look in another direction in order to help solve my problems. All you have to do is go to a reputable dermatologist and do some research yourself online---read the information intelligently.

Karenvenice,
Can you give me the name of the product you used, was that citrone? I too have had major issues with all medications and lasers to treat melasma. The problem has worsened and now I'm trying a new approach but I may be able to include the product you mentioned if it's natural. How did it work for you? Thanks in advance.

sandrav · 09-12-2009, 01:04 AM

hi, do you know where can i buy Tri luma? Thanks

sandrav · 09-12-2009, 01:05 AM

Hello, where did you order Tri luma from?

sandrav · 09-12-2009, 01:07 AM

I have tried it. Did not work for me.

sandrav · 09-12-2009, 01:07 AM

Hello.

sandrav · 09-12-2009, 01:09 AM

I want to try Tri Luma. Buy I don't know if it will work for me.

sandrav · 09-12-2009, 01:10 AM

Hi

Karenvenice · 09-14-2009, 12:00 PM

Responding to NYC1458, okay, to answer your question about the treatment that I used, it was the citron treatment by "simple natural." But once again let me reiterate that I got someone to buy it for me in Israel. The manufacuring plant is in a Kibbutz in Israel and because I was not sure whether it would actually reach me here in the US, I got someone to bring it over. It is not possible to write down any URL's on this blog, so all I can say is that you can try to google the company's name and hope that somehow you find it because this is a common name or write them an email and ask your questions, I will write out part of the email with words just in case I'm not allowed to write emails either: hbosem at g mail dot com

I hope that this is helpful.