Monocled I don't have a milk frother either. I just used a mixer. I'm fair skinned as well. It didn't leave a white cast on me. It went on clear. I'm white but not as white as zinc powder and I can't use anything that looks white or rubs off. Eco is the worst with that. Its like paste and it comes off on everything.
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Zinc Oxide/Physical Sunscreen List - Page 88post #1741 of 22534/1/12 at 7:37am"The best thing to give your enemy is forgiveness; to a friend; your heart, to your child, a good example, to a father, deference; to your mother, conduct that will make her proud of you; to yourself, respect, to all men, charity" Francis Maitland Balford"The best thing to give your enemy is forgiveness; to a friend; your heart, to your child, a good example, to a father, deference; to your mother, conduct that will make her proud of you; to yourself, respect, to all men, charity" Francis Maitland Balford
Products mentioned in this thread:post #1742 of 22534/1/12 at 7:46am
KristyC, what kind of zinc oxide did you buy to make your DIY sunscreen?
I can't tell the difference between micronized, micronized uncoated vs coated ...
The last offering says that the sizing is < 200 nm - does that mean it's the (dangerous) nano kind?
Is it coating or sizing of the particles that makes it sink in clear?
Still thinking about a new regimen ...
Still thinking about a new regimen ...post #1743 of 22534/1/12 at 7:56amQuote:
Its a good question and as I said before, there are other things that can augment UV protection besides the physical ones like zinc oxide. Osmosis uses a lower percent of zinc to make Shelter completely sheer, even for ethnic skin, but they use algae which protects over UVA and UVB and blue light range to cover the full spectrum. This is how Eileen from Osmosis words it:
"Red algae is the only living organism that can absorb UV and serve as a
protective filter thus protecting other cells from harmful damage and free
radicals. We combine the red algae and other antioxidants with the zinc
oxide and achieve a 30 Sun Protection Factor and complete coverage for UVA
and UVB in our Shelter product. It is referred to as HelioGuard 365 and I
have attached a more detailed document.
I still reapply q2h while outside - still sheer not caky or greasy.
You need more power than a milk frother to mix a high % of zinc oxide into a SS tho. Something like a blender stick helps.post #1744 of 22534/1/12 at 7:58am
I got it from sea. It was coated micronized. I don't remember the size of the particles. I can't tell the difference between them either. Its hard for me to tell if a sunscreen is working because I have allot of red undertones in my skin. I stay out of it as much as possible. If I have to go outside I do so later in the day and wear sunscreen. Regardless of how good the ss is it still only offers some protection. Protective clothing and sun avoidance is the best but it isn't always practical."The best thing to give your enemy is forgiveness; to a friend; your heart, to your child, a good example, to a father, deference; to your mother, conduct that will make her proud of you; to yourself, respect, to all men, charity" Francis Maitland Balfordpost #1745 of 22534/1/12 at 10:36am
IMO it depends on your skin type, lifestyle, local climate, indoor or outdoor job/ hobbies, shiftwork or 9-5, drive/ cycle/ walk/ use public transport, beach holidays or ski-ing ... official guidelines are about avoiding skin cancers, not so much the chronic low levels of UV that contributes to ageing, so skincare companies may offer different products to each group.
"Another way to look at it is in terms of percentages: SPF 15 blocks approximately 93 percent of all incoming UVB rays. SPF 30 blocks 97 percent; and SPF 50 blocks 98 percent. They may seem like negligible differences, but if you are light-sensitive, or have a history of skin cancer, those extra percentages will make a difference. And as you can see, no sunscreen can block all UV rays. ....
What type of sunscreen should I use?
The answer depends on how much sun exposure you're anticipating. In all cases we recommend a broad-spectrum sunscreen offering protection against both UVA and UVB rays. Many after-shave lotions and moisturizers have a sunscreen (usually SPF 15 or greater) already in them, and this is sufficient for everyday activities with a few minutes here and there in the sun."
BTW Devita offer the Rx Ultrasolar 50 which contains 8% titanium dioxide and 19% zinc oxide. Their Body Block 30 and the Solar Protective 30 are both 19% zinc according to the Essentialdayspa store.
Quote:"In the year of our Lord 1903, in the meat packing plants off the shores of the sea, Stood a young man at his slaughter post a newby by his side, He said grind it up and ship it out doesn't matter what's inside, With poison bread to kill the rats, an effective tool of trade ..." Flatfoot 56"In the year of our Lord 1903, in the meat packing plants off the shores of the sea, Stood a young man at his slaughter post a newby by his side, He said grind it up and ship it out doesn't matter what's inside, With poison bread to kill the rats, an effective tool of trade ..." Flatfoot 56post #1746 of 22534/1/12 at 11:06amQuote:Originally Posted by Firefox7275
Many after-shave lotions and moisturizers have a sunscreen (usually SPF 15 or greater) already in them, and this is sufficient for everyday activities with a few minutes here and there in the sun."
Ya but the chemical screening ingredients in aftershave and moisturizers (and makeup) actually cause more damage than they prevent: free radicals are the enemy generated by degradation of these chemicals in UV light. Otherwise, I agree about the cumulative exposure.post #1747 of 22534/1/12 at 12:22pm
I was showing an 'official' attitude to lower SPF products, I don't use or recommend chemical sunscreen agents any more than you do. Do they cause more damage than they prevent?Quote:"In the year of our Lord 1903, in the meat packing plants off the shores of the sea, Stood a young man at his slaughter post a newby by his side, He said grind it up and ship it out doesn't matter what's inside, With poison bread to kill the rats, an effective tool of trade ..." Flatfoot 56post #1748 of 22534/1/12 at 12:44pmpost #1749 of 22534/2/12 at 8:43am
Is there something about Titanium Dioxide in ss? I tend to avoid it but I don't remember why. Its in allot of things. I want to make my own mineral foundation for instance and every recipe I've found has TD.post #1750 of 22534/2/12 at 9:15am
Compared to zinc oxide, it's harder to make transparent products (more reflective) and it has a reputation for generating free rads while zinc oxide acts as an antioxidant. It is in most DIY recipes particularly BECAUSE of it's opacity I would imagine.
I'm sure there's more than that and I'm just forgetting. Someone else better versed will chime in, though.
Edited by Chlorophyll - 4/2/12 at 9:26ampost #1751 of 22534/2/12 at 12:42pmpost #1752 of 22534/2/12 at 5:31pmpost #1753 of 22534/2/12 at 5:50pmpost #1754 of 22534/2/12 at 6:26pmpost #1755 of 22534/2/12 at 6:31pmpost #1756 of 22534/2/12 at 8:45pm
Now I know the thought police are real ..... innocently on Google Images looking for kitties and sunscreen, guess which oh so familiar face should pop up? SCT's very own and very lovely Dempeaux. I'm not going to post the picture cuz that is a bit rude without asking. Check out her before and afters from a few year or so of using proven actives, dear lurkers, including pictures comparing her sun damaged to not sun damaged side.post #1757 of 22534/3/12 at 6:56ampost #1758 of 22534/3/12 at 7:01ampost #1759 of 22534/3/12 at 9:26amQuote:Originally Posted by Firefox7275
Now I know the thought police are real ..... innocently on Google Images looking for kitties and sunscreen, guess which oh so familiar face should pop up? SCT's very own and very lovely Dempeaux. I'm not going to post the picture cuz that is a bit rude without asking. Check out her before and afters from a few year or so of using proven actives, dear lurkers, including pictures comparing her sun damaged to not sun damaged side.
Oh mY Gosh her skin is flawless, so even and she looks so young and fresh...amazing. Thanks for posting this.
I want to have a glowing and even complexion, not high yellow just golden and healthy
I want to have a glowing and even complexion, not high yellow just golden and healthypost #1760 of 22534/19/12 at 6:24pm
Anyone know what SPF a 25% zinc oxide ss would be. How is that figured?
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