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Retin a. help me

post #1 of 18
Thread Starter 

I have been trying to lighten for a year now. My eyes are extremely dark due to allergies and me rubbing them. I stopped rubbing them and now they are super dark! I have been using ambi for a few months and there are n results. I was wondering if you could use retin a on t=your eyelids to get rid of the darkness. i also have darkness on my temples and around my mouth, i want to know if I could use it on my whole face.

Could someone please reply

post #2 of 18
Yeah you can... but you need to be extra careful with it, and use the lowest percentage available (0.025% or 0.01% if available to you... don't mix between 0.1%, that's too strong)

Read this post before doing anything...
http://www.skinacea.com/retinoids/use-retinoids-right-part-one.html

you'll need to be extra gentle with your eyes and around the lips... if you irritate both areas, they'll turn even darker...

Note: RA does NOT lighten! I'm only answering your question whether it can be used around the eyes or not... yes for anti-ageing
It can make that area thicker, and then appear lighter... but it will require something like 6 months of constant use before your skin thickens... I do recommend it from that aspect...

What is causing your dark circles?
Thin skin? Or hyperpigmented area?

Use vitaminC to lighten it in the morning along with RA in the evening ... you might also want to use a product with VitK
post #3 of 18

I have the same issue coupled with allergies and heredity.

 

I use RA with Se Quisso, I apply the RA 0.1% every 5 days or whenever the peeling stops. But I use the cream AM & PM.

 

I hate that lightener is so pricey but if used for the dark circles only then you can stretch the Se Quisso out for 3 months if refrigerated. I used to get questions like "What's wrong? Are you sick?" I can honestly go without under eye makeup without the comments anymore even though they're not completely gone. Now I can go without heavy concealer, just a bit of mineral powder under the eye does the job.

 

They used to look like this:

 

http://www.google.com/imgres?start=117&num=10&hl=en&biw=774&bih=551&tbm=isch&tbnid=q7BCTStSmvNZXM:&imgrefurl=http://www.delhiweddingplanners.com/article/expert-advice&docid=qLsg_Rsw-K1q2M&imgurl=http://delhi.bollywood-shaadis.com/img/article-20111132421474078460000.jpg&w=274&h=273&ei=pXItT9faNaKc2AWos4mMDw&zoom=1&iact=hc&vpx=99&vpy=8&dur=1028&hovh=218&hovw=219&tx=129&ty=164&sig=111879171066387512102&sqi=2&page=12&tbnh=161&tbnw=139&ndsp=11&ved=1t:429,r:7,s:117

 

 

but now look more like this:

http://www.google.com/imgres?hl=en&biw=774&bih=551&tbm=isch&tbnid=TDBGWIbpn4YSBM:&imgrefurl=http://food.sify.com/recipegallery/An_ayurvedic_guide_to_beautiful_skin-271779&docid=TdOPPIvBwtuK9M&imgurl=http://food.sify.com/cmsimages/media/sep2010/media/recipe/271772-001.jpg&w=490&h=367&ei=3HYtT-zZGYjq2QXx_qHfDg&zoom=1&iact=hc&vpx=486&vpy=12&dur=321&hovh=179&hovw=239&tx=229&ty=104&sig=111879171066387512102&page=5&tbnh=161&tbnw=215&start=44&ndsp=9&ved=1t:429,r:5,s:44

 

post #4 of 18
JaneDoe

Do you mind sharing the ingredients with us?
Thank you
post #5 of 18
Thread Starter 

do you use the retin a on your eyelids

post #6 of 18
Thread Starter 

where can i buy vit.c?

post #7 of 18

Yes, I mix the RA + cream in my palm then evenly distribute the combo over eyelids, upper and lower:

 

I apply from below the eyebrows to the upper eyelashes, then from lower lash to the bottom of the circle. Then encircle the entire orbital area.

 

There are past threads about F&F's products causing pimples, high prices, rude customer service or formula consistency but for the eyes it's been working great for 1 yr now. When I got desperate during a setback I did uses it on my face for about a month and certainly saw lightening but got 2 overly large pimples so I wouldn't recommend it for the face for long term. 

 

 

Ingredients:

 

Pure aloe vera extract

Acetyl hexapeptide-8

Palmitoyl tetrapeptide-3

Glycerin

Butylene glycol

Carbomer

Polysorbate 20

Glyceryl stearate

Cetearyl alcohol

Sodium stearoyl laactylate

Glucosamine HCI

Algae extract

Yeast extract 

Urea

Saccharomyces/xylinum black tea ferment

Hydoxyethylcellulose

Cyclopentasiloxane

Hydrolyzed lupine protein

Artemisia princeps leaf extract

Triisononanoin

Ethylene/acrylic acid

Copolymer

Dimethicone

Hydrolyzed hibiscus esculentus extract

Tetrahexyldecyl ascorbate (vitamin C)

Tocopheryl acetate ( vitamin E )

Mangifera indica (mango)seed butter

Butyrospermum parkii (shea butter)

Santalum album (sandlewood extract) wood extract

Phellodendron amurense bark extract

Hordeum distichon (barley) extract

Lactic acid

Camelia sinensis leaf extract

Ginkogo biloba leaf extract

Sepicalm VG

Squalane

Sepiwhite Msh

Fragrance of essential oils

Sepitonic M3

Xanthum gum

Stearyl glycrrhetinate

Dexatrin

Isohexadecane

Cetyl alcohol

Dimethicone/vinyl dimethicone crosspolymer

Tetrasodium EDTA

Phenoxyethanol

 

100% water free, 100% preservative free, must refrigerate

post #8 of 18

with the FNF range I find their just really heavy creams your bound to break out if you plaster this stuff on your skin, I wont Lie I've had the odd pimple here and there but with the help of RA they zap the very next day... they dont lie when they say alittle goes a Long way.

post #9 of 18
Thread Starter 

Thank you so much for your advice. If you dont mind me asking, where do you buy your retin-a. oh isnt .01 to strong for that area?

post #10 of 18

@Tracis 11

 

Sure, anytime.

 

RA 0.1% is strong, you can buffer it with Carotein so it doesn't peel you too much. You can also get the weaker concentrations The first time I foolishly slathered it on 2 days in a row by itself. Well my friend, I peeled like there was no tomorrow and my skin was nearly white! ....Then the peeling wouldn't stop, and wouldn't stop and wouldn't ( you get the message).

 

The first few days were great, because I had virgin skin but when I wouldn't stop peeling I ended battling the overly peeled spots which became dark ugly blemishes I had to cover them concealer and the face was just not ready for makeup yet. I had a week downtime.

 

After that initial peel my skin never peeled like that again but I also never used it alone again though either, always with a lightener or Carotein.

 

I bought mine from All Day Chemist like most people on here. I bought in bulk since it's less than $4 a tube, and it goes a long way. It's been almost a year and I've only finished 3 tubes. I've had these panda eyes since 4th grade so I feel your struggle. This could work for you.

post #11 of 18
Thread Starter 

Ok, I tried ordering form ADC once but it wont let me order. i couldnt put my card info in and i think they wanted me t have a prescription.

post #12 of 18

I'm washing my face with koic soap (Kojie san to be exact). Would it be okay if I use 0.05% on the corners of my eyes as I'm having wrinkles on it? Wouldn't it be too harsh?

post #13 of 18
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Originally Posted by Tracis11 View Post

Ok, I tried ordering form ADC once but it wont let me order. i couldnt put my card info in and i think they wanted me t have a prescription.

where are you from? They don't ship to some countries, you need to check that.
You don't need prescription, you can ignore it...
post #14 of 18

go see the doctor for darkness under your eye it could be something else.as with ambi tried it did,nt do any thing but give me a circle around my mouth like a clown.

post #15 of 18
Thread Starter 

@shellian what lightener are you using now. yes the ambi I think is actually making things darker. Can hydroquinone do that?

post #16 of 18

retin a , nadinola exta strength and koji san soap.thank you

post #17 of 18
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Originally Posted by shellian View Post

retin a , nadinola exta strength and koji san soap.thank you



How often do you use the 3?

post #18 of 18
Thread Starter 

Do you use them all at the same time, or spread them out. Also how close to the eyelid crease do you put the retin a

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