thanks but i never used nicatinamide....the regie posted up is the one im about to start on.....i think u can get nicatinamide from lotioncrafters.com though
thanks but i never used nicatinamide....the regie posted up is the one im about to start on.....i think u can get nicatinamide from lotioncrafters.com though
Thanks sooomuch....thats sounds like a lot of supplement though.....i am aiming tol ghten as i still havent lightened very much and the flash of the camera makes me look lighter than really am......thanks a lotforthe suggestions.....i will be looking into that now.

Hi,
You already have a nice skin tone and if I were you, I wouldn't aim to lighten anymore. You just need to maintain your skin tone, nourish it and protect it from the sun.
I would also not use Lactic acid in the day time, because it makes the skin sensitive to sunlight. If you wish to incorporate RA and if you are new to RA, I would suggest you to start using Adapalene (Differin) Gel which is a third generation retinoid. It works exactly in the same way as RA, but unlike RA, it has very little negative effects.(http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0CYD/is_10_35/ai_62827633/) (http://www.jle.com/e-docs/00/04/04/85/article.phtml?fichier=images.htm)
Also I would suggest you to make a serum with MAP (Vitamin C)(10-15%), Niacinamide(5%) and N-Acetyl D Glucosamide(2%) on an aloe base. MAP can be formutaed at a pH of 7.0 very easily and it is the same pH in which Niacinamide works effectively. Use this serum both in the morning and at night and I am sure it will provide the necessary nourishment for your skin. Try to avoid sunlight as much as you can and incase it becomes unavoidable, please use a physical sunscreen or mineral makeup with ZnO(Zinc Oxide).
Regarding supplements, I completely trust Dr. Loren Pickart's suggestions and he recommends 1gm-2gm of MSM and antioxidants suggested by Prof Lester packer (Alpha Lipoic Acid - 100 mgs (50 mg AM and 50 mg PM, Vitamin E - All isomers (alpha, beta, gamma, delta - 400 units daily),Tocotrienols - All isomers (alpha, beta, gamma, delta) - 20 mgs daily, Vitamin C - 500 mgs -1000 mgs daily, Coenzyme Q-10, Ginkgo Biloba - 30 mgs daily). Also please take some copper supplements (Upto 2mg/day) or store water overnight in a pure copper glass and drink it every day after you wake up in the morning and brush your teeth, on an empty stomach. (http://www.skinbiology.com/dietsupplements.html)
Hope this helps.
Cheers,
Haunty
You're right. Nu Fountain comes economical only if you follow their buy 2 get 1 free route. And a bottle lasts over a month, so not too bad!
Thanks for so many suggestions. Now, I can choose which suits my budget. A great forum discussion here.
Hey Idian Skin,
Where can i get this NuFountain C20+ Lightening Sunscreen to buy.. i bought Garnier, clean and clear and asda prand none actually did what it was to do..

Hey ayoxy, you might want to read the last page of this thread to choose your sunscreen. I was also considering higher SPFs to be better, but Iamme cleared it out for me
http://www.skincaretalk.com/t/31180/obagi-nu-derm-system/240#post_539782
I am using NuFountain C20+ Lightening, it has Vitamin C + AA + Niancinamide in it


hey, i was just wondering,the NuFountain serum, do you use it on just your fsce or allover your body????

Hey ayoxy, you might want to read the last page of this thread to choose your sunscreen. I was also considering higher SPFs to be better, but Iamme cleared it out for me
http://www.skincaretalk.com/t/31180/obagi-nu-derm-system/240#post_539782
I am using NuFountain C20+ Lightening, it has Vitamin C + AA + Niancinamide in it
Hey ayoxy, I pretty much use it on my face, neck, chest and sometimes arms, pretty much all the sun exposed areas.. Its supposed to reverse and protect from the sun damage.
Hey Sexynats,
NuFountain Serum is not a sunscreen, its a Vitamin C+ AA + Niancinamide Serum
ALso, for the Sunscreen, you might want to read Iamme's suggestions. Here is the summary
Make sure it has:
With those criteria, you know it will protect you well (but we still need to reapply frequently if outside). Then the only other thing to decide is how it looks and feels on the skin. You're in luck, because a lot of people have already contributed that information. Here is the super long thread. It's a sticky in the anti-aging forum: http://www.skincaretalk.com/t/22647/zinc-oxide-physical-sunscreen-list
If you don't want to read all the way through it, I think I can pretty easily distill it into people's top choices (the ones that are fairly reasonably priced).
Burnout Sensitive - sinks in quickly and leaves a matte finish. Good for oily skin. Not water resistant. If used really thickly, there is a slight white cast that can easily be rubbed in.
Burnout Ocean - sinks in quickly. The finish is not quite as matte as above. It is water/sweat resistant a bit. If used really thickly, there is a slight white cast that can easily be rubbed in.
Pratima - Very elegant. It's like a moisturizer with SS in it. Sheer. Dries just slightly shiny. Not water resistant.
Eco for face - Good protection. Moisturizing without being greasy. Leaves a white cast, but that can mostly be rubbed in. Not water resistant.
Devita (body or face) - Completely sheer. Dries shiny. Can burn just a bit around the eyes. Not water resistant
All Terrain with 16% Zinc Oxide (they have one called Phinneas and Ferb) - It's thick and needs to be spread quickly. Sinks in fast. Matte finish. Feels like Aveeno lotion when it's dry. Sweat resistant.
Unfortunately, some of these chemicals present in most regular sunscreens, especially avobenzone, are photoreactive, meaning that they undergo changes when hit by UV light. They create free radicals which age the skin by breaking down collagen and elastin fibers. Free radical damage is exactly what we're trying to avoid by using sunscreen!
Zinc oxide, as an inert mineral, has an extremely low photoreactivity, which is why we want it as our active ingredient in sunscreen. Also, zinc oxide is one of the very few substances that block most of the UVA rays.
Wow thanks much hun, I read on the internet sometime ago that you should look for titanium dioxide so i went out and bought t hese rubbish... oh my but thanks much for the detailed infor and the links.. kisses

Hey Sexynats,
NuFountain Serum is not a sunscreen, its a Vitamin C+ AA + Niancinamide Serum
ALso, for the Sunscreen, you might want to read Iamme's suggestions. Here is the summary
Make sure it has:
With those criteria, you know it will protect you well (but we still need to reapply frequently if outside). Then the only other thing to decide is how it looks and feels on the skin. You're in luck, because a lot of people have already contributed that information. Here is the super long thread. It's a sticky in the anti-aging forum: http://www.skincaretalk.com/t/22647/zinc-oxide-physical-sunscreen-list
If you don't want to read all the way through it, I think I can pretty easily distill it into people's top choices (the ones that are fairly reasonably priced).
Burnout Sensitive - sinks in quickly and leaves a matte finish. Good for oily skin. Not water resistant. If used really thickly, there is a slight white cast that can easily be rubbed in.
Burnout Ocean - sinks in quickly. The finish is not quite as matte as above. It is water/sweat resistant a bit. If used really thickly, there is a slight white cast that can easily be rubbed in.
Pratima - Very elegant. It's like a moisturizer with SS in it. Sheer. Dries just slightly shiny. Not water resistant.
Eco for face - Good protection. Moisturizing without being greasy. Leaves a white cast, but that can mostly be rubbed in. Not water resistant.
Devita (body or face) - Completely sheer. Dries shiny. Can burn just a bit around the eyes. Not water resistant
All Terrain with 16% Zinc Oxide (they have one called Phinneas and Ferb) - It's thick and needs to be spread quickly. Sinks in fast. Matte finish. Feels like Aveeno lotion when it's dry. Sweat resistant.
Unfortunately, some of these chemicals present in most regular sunscreens, especially avobenzone, are photoreactive, meaning that they undergo changes when hit by UV light. They create free radicals which age the skin by breaking down collagen and elastin fibers. Free radical damage is exactly what we're trying to avoid by using sunscreen!
Zinc oxide, as an inert mineral, has an extremely low photoreactivity, which is why we want it as our active ingredient in sunscreen. Also, zinc oxide is one of the very few substances that block most of the UVA rays.


No problem sweetie :) I learned all these from Iamme infact. I was also using some rubbish and uber expensive sunscreen and learned how harmful it is! I ordered Burnout Ocean and Devita after reading this. I want to get hold of Pratima too, probably will stop by the Spa and see if they got one.
hi, i was just wondering. when you advised me to use RA, did you mean the gel or the cream????.....and if i do use the cream,can i mix it with another moisturiser????


