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post #21 of 51
Thread Starter 

thanks but i never used nicatinamide....the regie posted up is the one im about to start on.....i think u can get nicatinamide from lotioncrafters.com though

 

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you look great, did you use the niacinimide the whole 6 months?, and where did you get yours from?



 

post #22 of 51
Thread Starter 

Thanks sooomuch....thats sounds like a lot of supplement though.....i am aiming tol ghten as i still havent lightened very much and the flash of the camera makes me look lighter than really am......thanks a lotforthe suggestions.....i will be looking into that now.

 

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Hi,

 

You already have a nice skin tone and if I were you, I wouldn't aim to lighten anymore. You just need to maintain your skin tone, nourish it and protect it from the sun.

 

I would also not use Lactic acid in the day time, because it makes the skin sensitive to sunlight. If you wish to incorporate RA and if you are new to RA, I would suggest you to start using Adapalene (Differin) Gel which is a third generation retinoid. It works exactly in the same way as RA, but unlike RA, it has very little negative effects.(http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0CYD/is_10_35/ai_62827633/) (http://www.jle.com/e-docs/00/04/04/85/article.phtml?fichier=images.htm)

 

Also I would suggest you to make a serum with MAP (Vitamin C)(10-15%), Niacinamide(5%) and N-Acetyl D Glucosamide(2%) on an aloe base. MAP can be formutaed at a pH of 7.0 very easily and it is the same pH in which Niacinamide works effectively. Use this serum both in the morning and at night and I am sure it will provide the necessary nourishment for your skin. Try to avoid sunlight as much as you can and incase it becomes unavoidable, please use a physical sunscreen or mineral makeup with ZnO(Zinc Oxide).

 

Regarding supplements, I completely trust Dr. Loren Pickart's suggestions and he recommends 1gm-2gm of MSM and antioxidants suggested by Prof Lester packer (Alpha Lipoic Acid - 100 mgs (50 mg AM and 50 mg PM, Vitamin E - All isomers (alpha, beta, gamma, delta - 400 units daily),Tocotrienols - All isomers (alpha, beta, gamma, delta) - 20 mgs daily, Vitamin C - 500 mgs -1000 mgs daily, Coenzyme Q-10, Ginkgo Biloba  - 30 mgs daily). Also please take some copper supplements (Upto 2mg/day) or store water overnight in a pure copper glass and drink it every day after you wake up in the morning and brush your teeth, on an empty stomach. (http://www.skinbiology.com/dietsupplements.html)

 

Hope this helps.

 

Cheers,

Haunty



 

post #23 of 51

It looks like you've already lightened a lot!! What products were you using to achieve your current shade?

post #24 of 51
Thread Starter 

i used diva maxima  soap and body cream.....i also exfoliated for a while with kojie san, likas and La lotion.

post #25 of 51

You're right. Nu Fountain comes economical only if you follow their buy 2 get 1 free route. And a bottle lasts over a month, so not too bad! 
 

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i just checked out Nfountain....it is quite expensive and only for a small bottle.....i am a student on a budget...lol
 



 



 

post #26 of 51

Thanks for so many suggestions. Now, I can choose which suits my budget. A great forum discussion here.

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post #27 of 51



Hey Idian Skin,

 

Where can i get this NuFountain C20+ Lightening Sunscreen to buy.. i bought Garnier, clean and clear and asda prand none actually did what it was to do..

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Hey ayoxy, you might want to read the last page of this thread to choose your sunscreen. I was also considering higher SPFs to be better, but Iamme cleared it out for me

http://www.skincaretalk.com/t/31180/obagi-nu-derm-system/240#post_539782

 

I am using NuFountain C20+ Lightening, it has Vitamin C + AA + Niancinamide in it 



 

post #28 of 51
Thread Starter 

hey, i was just wondering,the NuFountain serum, do you use it on just your fsce or allover your body????

 

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Originally Posted by IndianSkin View Post



Hey ayoxy, you might want to read the last page of this thread to choose your sunscreen. I was also considering higher SPFs to be better, but Iamme cleared it out for me

http://www.skincaretalk.com/t/31180/obagi-nu-derm-system/240#post_539782

 

I am using NuFountain C20+ Lightening, it has Vitamin C + AA + Niancinamide in it 



 

post #29 of 51

Hey ayoxy, I pretty much use it on my face, neck, chest and sometimes arms, pretty much all the sun exposed areas.. Its supposed to reverse and protect from the sun damage.
 

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hey, i was just wondering,the NuFountain serum, do you use it on just your fsce or allover your body????

 



 



 

post #30 of 51


Hey Sexynats,

 

NuFountain Serum is not a sunscreen, its a Vitamin C+ AA + Niancinamide Serum

 

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0031B51Y0/ref=pd_lpo_k2_dp_sr_1?pf_rd_p=486539851&pf_rd_s=lpo-top-stripe-1&pf_rd_t=201&pf_rd_i=B001TAIFZM&pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_r=1VMK928YWX6P2R5TQ8VK

 

ALso, for the Sunscreen, you might want to read Iamme's suggestions. Here is the summary

 

 

Make sure it has:

 

  1. >16% zinc oxide for the active ingredient
  2. No octi-- or oxy--ingredients
  3. No titanium dioxide
  4. All other ingredients that you can pronounce!

 

With those criteria, you know it will protect you well (but we still need to reapply frequently if outside).  Then the only other thing to decide is how it looks and feels on the skin.  You're in luck, because a lot of people have already contributed that information.  Here is the super long thread.  It's a sticky in the anti-aging forum:  http://www.skincaretalk.com/t/22647/zinc-oxide-physical-sunscreen-list

 

If you don't want to read all the way through it, I think I can pretty easily distill it into people's top choices (the ones that are fairly reasonably priced).

 

Burnout Sensitive - sinks in quickly and leaves a matte finish.  Good for oily skin.  Not water resistant.  If used really thickly, there is a slight white cast that can easily be rubbed in.

Burnout Ocean - sinks in quickly.  The finish is not quite as matte as above.  It is water/sweat resistant a bit.  If used really thickly, there is a slight white cast that can easily be rubbed in.

Pratima - Very elegant.  It's like a moisturizer with SS in it.  Sheer.  Dries just slightly shiny.  Not water resistant.

Eco for face - Good protection.  Moisturizing without being greasy.  Leaves a white cast, but that can mostly be rubbed in.  Not water resistant.

Devita (body or face) - Completely sheer.  Dries shiny.  Can burn just a bit around the eyes.  Not water resistant

All Terrain with 16% Zinc Oxide (they have one called Phinneas and Ferb) - It's thick and needs to be spread quickly.  Sinks in fast.  Matte finish.  Feels like Aveeno lotion when it's dry.  Sweat resistant.

 

 

Unfortunately, some of these chemicals present in most regular sunscreens, especially avobenzone, are photoreactive, meaning that they undergo changes when hit by UV light.  They create free radicals which age the skin by breaking down collagen and elastin fibers.  Free radical damage is exactly what we're trying to avoid by using sunscreen!

 

Zinc oxide, as an inert mineral, has an extremely low photoreactivity, which is why we want it as our active ingredient in sunscreen.  Also, zinc oxide is one of the very few substances that block most of the UVA rays.

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Originally Posted by sexynats View Post



Hey Idian Skin,

 

Where can i get this NuFountain C20+ Lightening Sunscreen to buy.. i bought Garnier, clean and clear and asda prand none actually did what it was to do..



 



 

post #31 of 51



Wow thanks much hun, I read on the internet sometime ago that you should look for titanium dioxide so i went out and bought t hese rubbish... oh my but thanks much for the detailed infor and the links.. kisses

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Originally Posted by IndianSkin View Post


Hey Sexynats,

 

NuFountain Serum is not a sunscreen, its a Vitamin C+ AA + Niancinamide Serum

 

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0031B51Y0/ref=pd_lpo_k2_dp_sr_1?pf_rd_p=486539851&pf_rd_s=lpo-top-stripe-1&pf_rd_t=201&pf_rd_i=B001TAIFZM&pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_r=1VMK928YWX6P2R5TQ8VK

 

ALso, for the Sunscreen, you might want to read Iamme's suggestions. Here is the summary

 

 

Make sure it has:

 

  1. >16% zinc oxide for the active ingredient
  2. No octi-- or oxy--ingredients
  3. No titanium dioxide
  4. All other ingredients that you can pronounce!

 

With those criteria, you know it will protect you well (but we still need to reapply frequently if outside).  Then the only other thing to decide is how it looks and feels on the skin.  You're in luck, because a lot of people have already contributed that information.  Here is the super long thread.  It's a sticky in the anti-aging forum:  http://www.skincaretalk.com/t/22647/zinc-oxide-physical-sunscreen-list

 

If you don't want to read all the way through it, I think I can pretty easily distill it into people's top choices (the ones that are fairly reasonably priced).

 

Burnout Sensitive - sinks in quickly and leaves a matte finish.  Good for oily skin.  Not water resistant.  If used really thickly, there is a slight white cast that can easily be rubbed in.

Burnout Ocean - sinks in quickly.  The finish is not quite as matte as above.  It is water/sweat resistant a bit.  If used really thickly, there is a slight white cast that can easily be rubbed in.

Pratima - Very elegant.  It's like a moisturizer with SS in it.  Sheer.  Dries just slightly shiny.  Not water resistant.

Eco for face - Good protection.  Moisturizing without being greasy.  Leaves a white cast, but that can mostly be rubbed in.  Not water resistant.

Devita (body or face) - Completely sheer.  Dries shiny.  Can burn just a bit around the eyes.  Not water resistant

All Terrain with 16% Zinc Oxide (they have one called Phinneas and Ferb) - It's thick and needs to be spread quickly.  Sinks in fast.  Matte finish.  Feels like Aveeno lotion when it's dry.  Sweat resistant.

 

 

Unfortunately, some of these chemicals present in most regular sunscreens, especially avobenzone, are photoreactive, meaning that they undergo changes when hit by UV light.  They create free radicals which age the skin by breaking down collagen and elastin fibers.  Free radical damage is exactly what we're trying to avoid by using sunscreen!

 

Zinc oxide, as an inert mineral, has an extremely low photoreactivity, which is why we want it as our active ingredient in sunscreen.  Also, zinc oxide is one of the very few substances that block most of the UVA rays.



 



 

post #32 of 51


No problem sweetie :) I learned all these from Iamme infact. I was also using some rubbish and uber expensive sunscreen and learned how harmful it is! I ordered Burnout Ocean and Devita after reading this. I want to get hold of Pratima too, probably will stop by the Spa and see if they got one.

 

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Originally Posted by sexynats View Post



Wow thanks much hun, I read on the internet sometime ago that you should look for titanium dioxide so i went out and bought t hese rubbish... oh my but thanks much for the detailed infor and the links.. kisses



 



 

post #33 of 51
Thread Starter 


hi, i was just wondering. when you advised me to use RA, did you mean the gel or the cream????.....and if i do use the cream,can i mix it  with another moisturiser????
 

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Sorry I can't help with the serum... I buy my powder and make my serum myself.... I hope others answer you...
RA is anti-ageing and acne fighting cream.... you can use it alone without a problem... BUT being new to it... you'll need to start with the lowest strength 0.025.... and maybe mix it with a moisturiser to make it even more mild... you shouldn't use it every day to start with... start by using it once in three days... then after a while, once in two days and so on...
In the sticky post for newbies... check my post number 3... I put a link to how to use retin a... it is a must-read for beginners...
Do you spend too much time out side? If you do then use zinc-based sunscreen... I haven't found the one I like yet... but you might want to try Pratima. (I haven't tried it as I can't get them to ship to Europe) .... neutrogena is chemical-based sunscreen...


 

post #34 of 51
Omg!!!!!!Ayoxy im so impress.how do u use the vitamin serum??did u just put it on ur skin on leave it on?
post #35 of 51
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Originally Posted by ayoxy View Post



hi, i was just wondering. when you advised me to use RA, did you mean the gel or the cream????.....and if i do use the cream,can i mix it  with another moisturiser????

Well I do mix my RA cream with other creams... haven't had any issues... but I only mix in my palm for the amount I need at the time of application.
post #36 of 51

Omg those are great results!!! congrats!!! smile.gif

whats your regime???

post #37 of 51
Thread Starter 

My regime was  1 month of exfoliation using kojiesan and LA lotion

and then Diva maxima  cream and soap

post #38 of 51
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My regime was  1 month of exfoliation using kojiesan and LA lotion

and then Diva maxima  cream and soap

hello, are you still using the diva maxima maxi tone. The results continue to be good? If yes. Which one are you using? has several types

post #39 of 51
Thread Starter 

yes, i am still DIVA, i havent gotten lighter any further, my skin has gotten too used to it and has plateaued, i am using the lotion and soap. i am about start using G&G and RA for the next 6 weeks and see where that takes me

post #40 of 51

try using skin light (orange top). i think that is better than g&g. i got better results from that than g&g

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