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post #21 of 66
10/23/09 at 4:19pm
omg Karenannev im so done with ra also, the ra left me with horrible rashes on my legs and thighs, and for some reason it wont go away even though i stopped using ra, i tried hydrocortisone cream didnt do nething for me not even reduce the redness of the rashes, so my skin looks horrible, i can never wear shorts or skirts ever again until i can find something to clear my skin up, im so depressed.
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post #22 of 66
10/23/09 at 4:27pm
Krazycee07, I'm sorry that this has happened to you too. Many here are suggesting the F&F as a possible alternative, but please do not use any other skin lightening agents until you have completely healed. I hope you're back on track soon.
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post #23 of 66
10/23/09 at 4:35pm
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Originally Posted by LightenNLift View Post

I support you in stopping HQ/RA. Retin-A is NOT for everyone and thank yourself for noticing that your skin wasnt tolerating its benefits. I still want you to get rid of the scars/orange tan so if you have the money buy the fair and flawless 5xf lightening gel and give it a try, it exfoliate and lightens measurably in a matter of weeks. If I could order for you, I would. Otherwise, see your dermatologist for Azelex which is Azelaic Acid 20% just enough to make your skin even again. Another option is Differin, its a retinoid but unlike RA, it doesnt cause redness, irritation, skin scars, and peeling, it does undo all the damage effectively though, it undid Nina's forehead scars. Yes, I have noticed that HQ doesnt work so well for caucasians, it turns them red/irritated, sepiwhite or azelaic might be it as it has a more stable chemical structure which is resistent to sun/temp and air breakdown. You can go back to Meladerm and use it along with sepiwhite and azelex as its compatible. PLEASE stay on this forum, ask questions, and research about gentler options for your skin and pm me if you need other things.

LNL, I've read all of the other posts and will get to those in a second. I am SO sorry if I've caused any conflict on here. That is the LAST thing I wanted to do. But I so appreciate your support and advice. I have been thinking about the Fair and Flawless and was going to ask you whether I should get that instead of the Meladerm. I was going to post the Meladerm ingredients and get your advice on which would be best. I honestly don't care AT ALL about the cost. If there was something that was $500 a jar/tube or whatever, if it would work for me I would pay it. I so desperately want my face fair, I would do/pay just about anything.

Did the Differin really get rid of Ninasky's scars??? I don't remember reading that! Maybe I could combine that with the F&F?
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post #24 of 66
10/23/09 at 4:37pm
Skin Whitening Gel PH 5.5, order this, use this twice a day, NO SUN CONTACT, I dont care if you have to wear a black cape and cut out holes to cover yourself from the sun, order it, try it twice a day for a week and TELL US of your results after that week has passed. Dont use anything else, just that twice a day.
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post #25 of 66
10/23/09 at 4:37pm
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Originally Posted by krazycee07 View Post

omg Karenannev im so done with ra also, the ra left me with horrible rashes on my legs and thighs, and for some reason it wont go away even though i stopped using ra, i tried hydrocortisone cream didnt do nething for me not even reduce the redness of the rashes, so my skin looks horrible, i can never wear shorts or skirts ever again until i can find something to clear my skin up, im so depressed.

Krazycee, I am so so sorry you are going through this too. Just know I am depressed with you. We will get through this and come out the other end, I'm sure. There MUST be something for us. The HC cream does nothing for me either. I put some on my neck this morning and it just made it more itchy. Have you been to a derm? We should probably both go.
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post #26 of 66
10/23/09 at 4:39pm
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Originally Posted by Lajdnie View Post

That's unfortunate. Have you tried stopping the RA, and simply using the HQ?

Lajdnie, I have used HQ4% on its own several years ago with no results whatsoever.
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post #27 of 66
10/23/09 at 4:41pm
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Originally Posted by reyaz01 View Post

WAIT! Okay, i understand what you are talking about, I actually saw some hyperpigmentation occurring around my neck where it was always very light. But i would advise as well that you discontinue the use of it if after this long it hasn't produced any results, as with anything that you use. I'm sorry to hear about your ordeal. But listen carefully to what I say below:

1) HQ does not work well on all skin types, it's different for different races especially Caucasians simply because of the type of melanin that is produced. It is a different kind completely to what asians and africans have in their skin. Which is why Caucasians usually would be better of using more natural products like arbutin or Kojic Acid.

2) I would personally recommend before you reorder Meladerm that you try TriLuma. I've personally seen it work wonders on caucasian skin to completely dissipate hyperpigmentation.

Use this with Sunscreen and Olive Oil/ Any other restoration oil for about two weeks and see if there is a difference. If not completely discontinue any product with HQ or RA.

Trust me on this, you can get back natural glowing white skin.

Reyaz,

Thanks so much for your advice and caring, too. I am just so confused at the moment. And absolutely TERRIFIED that my skin could get even worse if I stop. I would rather die than have worse skin than before.
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post #28 of 66
10/23/09 at 4:41pm
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Originally Posted by Manay View Post

how long were you using HQ/RA?

Hi Manay,

Two months.
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post #29 of 66
10/23/09 at 4:46pm
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Originally Posted by lansing View Post

Karen, I am sadden by your experience. Is the hyperpigmentation bad? How was your SPF regime and daily sun exposure?

Could it be that the orange tone came from the HQ oxidizing on skin?

Hi Lansing,

It's probably just as bad or worse than before I started Meladerm, plus now on my neck too.

I can honesty say I've had NO sun touch my face for months! I probably look stupid but even dashing from the car a few metres to the shop I'll put up papers to shield the sun. If I'm out any longer than a few minutes I'll use a hat. I close the blinds even first thing in the morning to make coffee. I've even become paranoid about daylight. Always have sunblock on because I've even become worried about indoor lighting. The only time I don't have sunscreen on is at night and I wear a hat if I'm under a light. My skin should be great by now, don't you think! I'm just so frustrated.
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post #30 of 66
10/23/09 at 4:47pm
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Originally Posted by salsera View Post

Kareannev
I just wrote a similar post - but I got kicked off before I could post it.
I didn't include the Tri-luma. But the key to your success is
1. stop the HQ/RA
2. LET YOUR SKIN REST
3. Use one of the healing oils on your skin
4. NOT USE MELADERM OR ANY OTHER PRODUCT FOR AT LEAST A WEEK
5. Don't give up the battle just change your plan of attack!!
  • Everything is not for everybody
  • Monitor your skin/body - you know you better than anyone
  • Be patient and take it slow - stop at the sign of a possible issue
REST YOUR SKIN FROM THESE INVASIVE TREATMENTS

Thanks Salsera,

I am not giving up. I NEED my skin to be beautiful. I'm just so confused at the moment about how to get there. Thank you so much for your advice.
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post #31 of 66
10/23/09 at 4:54pm
Karenannev, honey, you did NOT cause any conflict whatsoever. It is natural for people to sometimes disagree & skin lightening is a real hot button topic. I just ordered the F&F using LNL's thoughtful link. Whenever I go to that site, I get confused. They post the Fitz chart, but give viewers no idea as to how to use it in relation to product selection. Something like 'if you are a fitz V & want to get to a III, use this________ '

If you are a Fitz I & you are uneven, have lentigines, sun damage etc. use this ________ '. What I DID like is that they do not post a bunch of faked before & after shots. The claim that SW is 20x 'stronger' (meaning what exactly: faster? longer lasting results? ) than HQ is untrue (read the original Seppic patent application for SW) & that sort of makes me doubt, but I do trust certain members here who have used it & like it.
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post #32 of 66
10/23/09 at 4:55pm
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Originally Posted by LightenNLift View Post

Skin Whitening Gel PH 5.5, order this, use this twice a day, NO SUN CONTACT, I dont care if you have to wear a black cape and cut out holes to cover yourself from the sun, order it, try it twice a day for a week and TELL US of your results after that week has passed. Dont use anything else, just that twice a day.

Thanks LNL, well even in my sad state, you made me laugh about the cape . You know I reckon I would wear one if it didn't look stupid! Well I won't go that far but I've become an expert at avoiding the sun, so I can guarantee it won't touch me.

I am actually excited to order the F&F now! Just one thing I'm terrified about now. Reyaz saying that there's no turning back once you start HQ/RA. Could my skin really get a whole lot worse. Please tell me this couldn't happen.
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post #33 of 66
10/23/09 at 4:58pm
OF COURSE NOT!!!!!! please, that is a horrible thing to say to someone who has been using a combination of products that they expereinced so much discomfort and negative experiences with. He is just using his powers of persuasion to get you to follow his line of advice and go back to HQ/RA in the form of Triluma. Retin-A disagreed with many people's skins on SCT, did you ever see them come back and say that once they stopped it got worse then when they were using it? You are not treating a colony of bacteria or a disease that you can never stop treatment throughout ur entire life. This couldnt happen, you know it too, use ur logical and rational sense.
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post #34 of 66
10/23/09 at 5:04pm
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Originally Posted by ondine View Post

Karenannev, honey, you did NOT cause any conflict whatsoever. It is natural for people to sometimes disagree & skin lightening is a real hot button topic. I just ordered the F&F using LNL's thoughtful link. Whenever I go to that site, I get confused. They post the Fitz chart, but give viewers no idea as to how to use it in relation to product selection. Something like 'if you are a fitz V & want to get to a III, use this________ '

If you are a Fitz I & you are uneven, have lentigines, sun damage etc. use this ________ '. What I DID like is that they do not post a bunch of faked before & after shots. The claim that SW is 20x 'stronger' (meaning what exactly: faster? longer lasting results? ) than HQ is untrue (read the original Seppic patent application for SW) & that sort of makes me doubt, but I do trust certain members here who have used it & like it.

Thanks Ondine . It looks really good I think. Considering the Meladerm did work for me to an extent at least, maybe this will work even better. I hope and pray that it will.

What do you think about Reyaz's comment about no going back? This terrifies me. Do you think my skin will get worse if I stop? Would the F&F stop this from happening.

I'm just so scared and confused at the moment.
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post #35 of 66
10/23/09 at 5:07pm
Karenannev, you WILL get better soon (like I did after that Glycolic 50 disaster) & you WILL find a solution. Results like Ms. VonTeese's are worth the effort. LNL id right: this is not the Ebola virus. Some of the most ordinary soaps, fabrics & detergents etc. turn me into a giant rash. RA is not something most people are 'stuck' using forever once they begin. Some go on it for a treatment cycle, maintain their results with something else (aha/glycolics etc) then use it only on occasion.
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post #36 of 66
10/23/09 at 5:16pm
i hope that you find the right treatment for you K!
'Do I love you because you're beautiful,
Or are you beautiful because I love you?'
~Richard Rodgers and Oscar Hammerstein II, Cinderella
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'Do I love you because you're beautiful,
Or are you beautiful because I love you?'
~Richard Rodgers and Oscar Hammerstein II, Cinderella
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post #37 of 66
10/23/09 at 5:47pm
Hi K,

Have you ever thought of trying natural supplements, working from the inside out?

Gigi
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post #38 of 66
10/23/09 at 6:02pm
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Originally Posted by ondine View Post

Karenannev, you WILL get better soon (like I did after that Glycolic 50 disaster) & you WILL find a solution. Results like Ms. VonTeese's are worth the effort. LNL id right: this is not the Ebola virus. Some of the most ordinary soaps, fabrics & detergents etc. turn me into a giant rash. RA is not something most people are 'stuck' using forever once they begin. Some go on it for a treatment cycle, maintain their results with something else (aha/glycolics etc) then use it only on occasion.

Ondine, I know you are right. It just seems like forever that I've wanted that DVT complexion. I will NEVER give up I promise. I'm just so confused about what to use now. I was worried really more worried about going off HQ than RA, and the repercussions. I hope Reyaz is wrong.
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post #39 of 66
10/23/09 at 6:05pm
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Originally Posted by LightenNLift View Post

OF COURSE NOT!!!!!! please, that is a horrible thing to say to someone who has been using a combination of products that they expereinced so much discomfort and negative experiences with. He is just using his powers of persuasion to get you to follow his line of advice and go back to HQ/RA in the form of Triluma. Retin-A disagreed with many people's skins on SCT, did you ever see them come back and say that once they stopped it got worse then when they were using it? You are not treating a colony of bacteria or a disease that you can never stop treatment throughout ur entire life. This couldnt happen, you know it too, use ur logical and rational sense.

Thanks LNL, I was actually more worried about stopping the HQ than the RA and whether I might get darker than ever. I had heard of that happening so it really scares me now.
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post #40 of 66
10/23/09 at 6:08pm
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Originally Posted by Gigi View Post

Hi K,

Have you ever thought of trying natural supplements, working from the inside out?

Gigi

Hi Gigi,

I sure have. I've been taking 10,000mg of MSM per day for two or three months now, along with a good Multivitamin (Swisse), Vitamin C, Vitamin D3, and fish oil. I have also given up alcohol except on special occasions (I used to drink every night), and I eat very healthily.
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