DIY Vit C Serum Recipes and Ingredient Sources - Page 94

Please do not delete this thread!  It might be outdated but its so full of other people's opinions and thoughts, it's very helpful.

 

 

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What's wrong w/ this thread? Everyone uses some form of vitamin C on here (just about) ...

 

Did I miss something?

 Maybe alert readers that the recipes have evolved, and if they don't read the whole thread they should use the latest recipes?

You guys always make me laugh. <3

 

What do you guys think about using your c serum at night?

 

I've been using an anhydrous c mix (pretty much as a primer) for a while, and I want to start using a water based serum again because I just can't ignore how awesome ferulic acid is with the c/e combo anymore. My main concern right now is probably the photoprotection aspect.

 

I keep hearing so many mixed ideas about this. One side of the debate is that night application is fine because the C can stay active in the dermis for several days and keep offering the sun protection. The other side says this is dumb because the other 2 vitamins probably get used up quickly and you may as well just use the c in that case. I even saw someone on a site say that c+e+ferulic at night is "pointless" because increasing spf is the only thing it's "good for." Obviously that guy didn't know anything about the collagen boosting and whatnot....

 

I'm kinda starting to think it doesn't really matter either way because getting the antioxidants into one's skin is a lot better for it than half the crap the companies are trying to sell us these days. Idk, I just need to bounce ideas off other people about this, I guess.

 

I suppose I could just wait a while for an aqueous c to soak in before I slather my sunscreen on, but zinc oxide+low ph skin is supposed to=bad, right?

 

hmmm........all of this must have something to do with a post I read over on EDS where Kassy herself mentions a "friend" posting her recipe.

 

Page 12, 1/3 down:  http://www.essentialdayspa.com/forum/viewthread.php?tid=45271&postdays=0&postorder=asc&&start=275

 

 

I'm out of the SKB and need to get some more and had ordered from Lotioncrafters in the past.  I looked at the Skin Essentials site but couldn't find what I was supposed to be getting.  Can somone point me in the right direction?

Fawnie: Perhaps open a part 2 thread, credit to Kassy as you always do, linking to the lengthy old thread for those who want to read or search all 94 pages? This thread can then be locked by a kindly moderator to avoid newbies (or us oldies!) posting in the wrong place, but not deleted to avoid losing a key resource. Anyone can of course copy-and-paste across any recipes or abstracts they don't want buried. This is done on many forums when certain threads get to a set number of pages or posts, because they can become intimidating and/ or take ages to load on older computers/ dial up connections.

 

Antioxidant-rich popcorn while we ponder a non-confrontational, mutually agreeable solution, anyone?

I can't even tell if there is a real argument going on here or if its an ongoing injoke, which is all kinda too bad because frankly this forum has been really quiet since the change, and I wonder if this kinda thing keeps n00bs intimidated.  just at thought.

 

As a relative n00b myself,  I do find this thread too long. its hard to read the whole thing all at once and come away with a lot of useful info.  Since so much of it is really old and outdated, I would totally vote for locking this and starting a fresh one. If in fact we're taking votes.  :-)

 

yup... pass that popcorn over. can I have mine drizzled with dark chocolate? (for my emotional health, dontcha know...)

? The real problem w/ n00bs is that they won't as in refuse to read old threads. You've got everything L-aa related that you could possibly need in one place, more than you can say for most resources online. But it's just too much work to read.

 

It's not as fun when the old timers are less active, but it's really not a problem that the n00bs are saying less. They are probably reading.
 

If you want to split a thread, who cares. Anyone can start a new one. But there's no reason to close the old one.

 

Well, that's a sweeping generalization that I disagree with.  Plenty of n00bs come and spend a lot of time reading. I did.  and as far as I'm concerned I'd rather  have some questions asked so that new content is generated than a stale forum that has devolved into petty arguments.

if someone could post the latest links to the evolved recipes I could link them in the initial post for reference... surely that shouldn't make people not read the thread to learn more because it is very valuable...

I can't agree with you more MP. Not to mention, there is a lot to be said about threads that have numerous pages..........it creates great history for those who like to pop in and out when they have time. Check back on old threads to see what the latest is, etc. No different than LNLs wonderful thread on Zinc SS. Even though he no longer posts, it is a thread that lives on day after day. Sure things change over time.......the one ingredient you "once" thought was the cream of the crop may no longer be, but so what, that doesn't mean we go and delete a thread just because of that. Things change, people change, style change, wants/needs change daily..........it is called life. If we went around deleting threads based on change...........we wouldn't be left with much around here-

As for my Vit C serum, I pretty much stick to the old faithful.......why change something when it isn't broke is my motto. My suppliers change often, depending on what I need and who has what, when I need it. But for the most part everything else remains the same. Makingcosmetics is still where I get my LAA, I still use LC often, as well as GOW, Personal Formulator, the list goes on. I love trying new things/products/ingredients, but my Vit C serum recipe hasn't changed much, as I like the one I use. It is easy to make, easy to follow, and easy to use. Whats not to like about that!!

As for suppliers...........MMS is one of my recent favs, and Makingcosmetics will always be one of my old favs- Everything else in the middle, just depends on what I need. I don't always go for the cheapest prices........as there is a lot to be said for things that are sold cheap. What I do go for is a supplier that has great quality, and has even better customer service.

We learn from history, formulas change over time, but the ability to reference a thread like this invaluable IMO.

Makes sense to me to keep the OP as basic as Fawnie suggests because that reassures newbies that DIY is for everyone, exactly as Gymrat says in post 15. That way enthusiastic newcomers can place their order and then read through the thread while they await the mailman; most people don't have the leisure time nor the concentration to read 95 pages in one sitting.

Lots of folks are interested in making Vitamin C serum, but everyone is different.  So just because one person is happy with a certain supplier doesn't mean the rest of the world will be.

 

So why shut out the rest of the suppliers and shove one company down everyone's throats ad infinitum?

 

There are many extremely reputable suppliers who have been in business many years and have proven themselves through quality, price, customer service and reputation.

 

Ultrafine LAA is available from a lot of places.  I buy mine from lotioncrafters - very honest, ethical and reputable.  Other popular suppliers are:

 

Bulk Actives

Ingredientstodiefor

Essential Wholesale

Garden of Wisdom

Making Cosmetics

Skinactives

 

Here is the  supplier resource list so everyone can choose her/his own preference:  http://www.skincaretalk.com/t/8915/supplier-resource-list

 

Please let's keep this as a positive discussion and not degenerate into mudslinging. 

 

As I understand it the initial idea was simply to update the OP; various options were put forward to achieve that including the suggestion of a new thread which would have been the ideal opportunity to summarise all the recipes, all the suppliers and all the research in the first few posts. That idea was rejected by Gymrat, Monocled Penguin and DIY Diva, and a couple of others seemed to either be sat on the fence or at least not particularly enthusiastic. So the simple update idea has been revisited. If I have the wrong end of the stick here I am sure you or someone will correct my summary. 

 

I don't personally see how it is possible to summarise and simplify an entire 95 page thread in the first page of this thread, without making a total nonsense of the flow of the initial conversation. It could easily make this thread seem even more intimidating than it already is, totally hijacks Fawnie's original concept for the thread and her original concept for updating the OP. None of that achieves what Gymrat, Monocled and DIY Diva wanted which seemed to be to leave the progression of this thread intact. In an ideal world we would have a summary including all the suppliers and all the recipes and whatnot, so I am still in favour (funny that! ) of starting a new thread, clearly linked to this one perhaps even with links to different discussions within this thread. But that wasn't the majority decision .... would you prefer that to the current plan?

Yes, positive and inclusive.  Great idea! 

 

This is the Vitamin C thread.  It's long.  It keeps growing and evolving.  That's sort of how threads work.  As you know, it's not up to three members (any three members) to vote on the content of threads.

 

For those interested in more Vitamin C recipes, EDS has some good ones.

Sorry if my previous post was worded badly, I didn't mean to suggest anyone was voting on content. It seems to me we all want the same thing - for the information here to remain available and accessible, whilst being user friendly - it's just how that might best be achieved that we are not all in agreement on. I'm only going by what has worked on other forums ... but some of the regulars might reasonably point out that SCT isn't other forums and in many ways I am still a newbie here!  Yes EDS is a goldmine of recipes, it would be great if that could be linked to. Maybe it would be best to leave this for a few days, wait for Fawnie or Gymrat or any other 'interested party' to post their thoughts? The idea definitely needs a mod or two on board because they must agree that locking this thread (whilst still clearly linking to it so the information is a click away) is appropriate. Does that make sense to you?

 

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