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Hi,

First post. Love the site.


Here's my 2 cents about what I've learned about skin health.

First and foremost use a QUALITY sunscreen daily. Most sunscreens sold in the US are pretty weak at protecting against UV damage. Improvements have been made with the introduction of Octocrylene being used to stabalize Avobenzone. These sunscreens still fall way behind what is available in Europe such as LaRoche Possay Anthelios with both Mexoryl XL and XS and Bioderma with Tinsorb M and S. These sunscreens provide a PPD of at least 20 which is very good.
Most US sunscreens only provide up to around a PPD of 10. Buying these European sunscreens can be cost prohibitive for many. A good alternative is to buy something like
the brand Ombrelle SPF 45. canadadrugsuperstore.com
This is a pretty big bottle at 240ml compared to most having 120ml or less.
This product has the Mexoryl SX but not the XL.
westcoastskin.com They will match this price and give you a 25% additional discount if you call them and mention where you found it.

Second is a good vitamin C serum to be used in the morning under your sunscreen.
Many good options to choose from such as CE Ferulic. These are pricey to say the least. A better option is to make your own DIY vitamin C serum. I recently came across one that looks very promising:

You can get the Ascorbic Acid powder (L-ascorbic acid is the same thing) at any health food store. Make sure it is 100% pure. Now brand is a good one.


You'll also need a 1oz dark colored dropper bottle to store it in.

This is what I recommend to use as your base.
DS Laboratories Viterol A Cream for General Face Area

You'll also need "Distilled water" (nothing else will do!), that you can buy in any grocery store. Also pick up a small bottle of Vitamin E capsules (for an added boost.)

So here it is all together;

What you need;

- Amber or dark colored 1oz dropper bottle
- Ascorbic Acid crystals
- Distilled water
- Vitamin E capsule
- Viterol A for Face (It has vitamin A + Ferulic acid already in there, and the PH is low.. It will give you a perfectly lovely C serum)

Recipe for 15% 1oz Vitamin C serum;

- 1 tsp Ascorbic Acid powder or crystals
- 3 tsp Distilled water
- 2 tsp Viterol A (If you only use this for formulating, you'll have enough to make a years worth of serums!)
- 2 Vitamin E capsules (you'll pierce it, and squeeze the contents into the Viterol A)

Here's how to do it;

Use two shot glasses. In one measure in 1 tsp of Ascorbic Acid, then add the 3 tsp of distilled water to it. Stir a bit, and allow to dissolve completely (5 to 10 minutes).

In the other shot glass, measure in the 2 tsp of Viterol A, then squeeze in the 2 Vitamin E capsule contents and mix this thouroughly.

Once the Ascorbic Acid has "fully" dissolved in the first shot glass, you'll combine the two. Stir well, and carefully pour into your 1oz bottle..

It is a very stable formulation, and will remain so if kept out of heat and direct light. It will last 2 to 3 months depending on how liberally you use it.


All in all, if you follow my recipe, here's the *main* goodies you'll have;

Vit C - Both AA + Oil soluble varieties
Vit E
Vit A
Ferulic Acid
D-Panthenol (Pro B-5)

And a nanosome delivery system to boot!

Thirdly, use Retin-a (Tretinoin) nightly. Work up to using it every night if possible. You may have peeling, reddining or worsening of acne symptoms initially, but this will pass in time. It will be worth it. Put it on immediatley after bathing for best absorption. Many will say to wait 20 minutes or so after bathing but that just lessens the absorption which is not what we want. The gel seems to penetrate better than the cream versions. I would go with only the retin-a and nothing over it at night. This is coming to light recently as superior to adding a moisturizer on top of it which has been said to interfere with the actions of the retin-a.
 

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Hi Periwinckle - great post!! I love being creative with skin care and you are seem right on top of things. I started on Tretinoin just two months ago and agree with your suggestions. I apply it after bathing before bedtime with nothing on top of it which may interfere with the medication. I am using the cream now but will try to get the gel next time as you suggested. (you mentioned a Canadian website. Are you in Canada? I am in Toronto).
 

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Hi Periwinckle - great post!! I love being creative with skin care and you are seem right on top of things. I started on Tretinoin just two months ago and agree with your suggestions. I apply it after bathing before bedtime with nothing on top of it which may interfere with the medication. I am using the cream now but will try to get the gel next time as you suggested. (you mentioned a Canadian website. Are you in Canada? I am in Toronto).
No, I'm down here in Hotlanta Georgia. Cold at the moment.
 

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Panel Demands FDA Action to Address Dramatic Increases in Skin Cancer in U.S.

NewsRx.com

12-03-08

Today keynote speaker Congresswoman Nita Lowey (NY-18) joined with experts from New York Presbyterian Hospital; the Skin Cancer Foundation; 2006 Miss Maryland, a skin cancer survivor; Fallene LTD, and Ciba Corporation to call on the Food and Drug Administration (FDA) to address the dramatic rise in skin cancer rates in the United States. The panel was organized by Citizens for Sun Protection (CFSP), a coalition of national, state, and local organizations and individuals advocating for U.S. sunscreen standards that meet or exceed the sunburn and skin cancer protection requirements available in Europe (see also Skin Cancer).

As much of the country moves into the colder, winter months, the panel sought to turn up the heat on a health care crisis that requires immediate action before another summer passes. Panelists called upon the FDA to set a strong sunscreen standard requiring protection from both UVB and UVA rays, with transparent labeling, and approve photostable, broad-spectrum sunscreen ingredients to defend against both UVB and UVA rays.

"The FDA continues to delay action on implementing sunscreen standards which would provide more effective and informative labeling, an important line of defense against the damaging rays of the sun," said Rep. Lowey. "The American public is under-protected and operating with a false sense of security in the face of the life-threatening dangers of sun exposure. I stand in full support of initiatives that would reduce the occurrence of skin cancer."

In her remarks, Rep. Lowey expressed deep concern with the FDA's delayed action to provide Americans with more complete and informative sunscreen standards and labeling, and their failure to approve highly effective sunscreen ingredients available in every other country except the U.S. The New York Congresswoman sought to focus the FDA's attention on rising skin cancer rates which many public health experts point to as a growing health care crisis, particularly in young women.

"People need to take better precautions when spending time outdoors and the U.S. government needs to be supportive of standards and ingredients that could further protect Americans from all the sun's rays -- UVB and UVA alike," said melanoma survivor and 2006 Miss Maryland Brittany Lietz. "Speaking from experience, we are not as protected as we think we are."

In 1999, the FDA recognized the significant need for more effective UVA radiation filters. Since then, concerns regarding the U.S. public health risks from UVA radiation have continued to mount. In August 2007, the FDA issued a proposed rule to amend the OTC Sunscreen Drug Product Monograph by promoting a UVA labeling standard. To date, action has not been taken to finalize the improved standards.
 

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Hi I am in Australia and was wondering if you know of brands we have here that I could use to make this vitamin c cream, Thanks Karen
 

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Hi I am in Australia and was wondering if you know of brands we have here that I could use to make this vitamin c cream, Thanks Karen
Hi and welcome. That recipe I gave above it a bit dated. One of the ingredients, Viterol-A, has been changed. Here's the latest version of it.
http://www.skincaretalk.com/anti-agi...-5-2009-a.html

As far as buying the ingredients in OZ, you'll probably have to do what most of us do and order them from sites such as these:

skin care, actives, skin care product, natural skin care, serious skin care, organic skin care, skin care information

BulkActives: skin actives and ingredients for DIY skin care

The Personal Formulator - Your Ingredient Supplier for Handcrafted Personal Care Products

Premium ingredients at less than premium prices... Lotioncrafter
 

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peri im so tired i dont have the head to read anymore tonight, but thanks for the anti aging, il read more tomo when i can concentrate a bit more
 
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