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(Re-edited from Greatskin.com)

Restoring one?s skin to that of a teenager has been sought after my many. It is the essence of all the skincare hype over products and as a result, a multi billion dollar cosmetic and cosmeceutical industry.

Cosmetics which merely hide, or create an illusion of beauty by accenting certain features like high cheekbones, lips or eyes while de-emphasizing other features such as uneven skin texture or lines are just that ..products used for those purposes.<O ></O >
Cosmeceuticals, on the other hand, are products, which effect a change in the skin toward healthier, thicker skin. The process of aging causes a gradual loss and disorganization of elastin and collagen fibers, the supportive matrix of the skin, as well as dehydration. The result is lack of ?bounce? or rebound to the skin matrix. The physical appearance is of droopy, thin, wrinkled skin.


What causes premature aging?

The main cause of premature aging of the skin is excess solar exposure to rays UVA and UVB. The result is excessive oxidation of the collagen and elastin fibers, which results in a process called ?crosslinking.? Normally, collagen and elastin fibers are found in nice thick even rows spread parallel to the skin surface in the basal layer of the skin. With cross linking, the fibers become disorganized and entangled into many disorganized bundles which cause the skin to dimple, sag and become susceptible to the force of gravity. Muscles of expression further result in deep lines caused by repeated use.
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What is available for skin rejuvenation?

Cosmeceuticals are products, with ingredients, which theoretically stimulate collagen and elastin renewal. Many of these products are available and generally have ascorbic acid, pycnogenol and proanthocyanidins. All of these are potent antioxidants, thus free radical scavengers. Free radicals are damaging molecules created by oxidative chemical reactions, which attack cellular DNA resulting in cellular mutation and malformation of collagen synthesis. Theoretically the application of free radicals to the skin can diminish this problem, but only if the substance can penetrate deep into the actively dividing cellular layer of the dermis. With the protective epidermal barrier this becomes difficult. Chemical and mechanical peeling can result in exfoliation of the epidermis.


Why remove the skin?s protective epidermal barrier?

First, removal of this barrier does make one more susceptible to photo damage and further collagen crosslinking. However, when the skin notices the loss of the epidermal barrier, it reacts by thickening the dermal layer, the living tissue layer. The result is thicker, plumper, pinker, healthier looking skin. Thus, a series of chemical or mechanical (dermabrasion) peels can be helpful, but only if strong sunscreen is used.


What are some internally and externnally applied products that help retard skin aging?

Internally, antioxidants such as vitamins C, E, CoQ-10, pycnogenol, grape seed extract, and Microhydrin? are very powerful. Externally, Topical Vitamin applications in bioactive forms can be very helpful, as they are antioxidants, but also prevent UVA and UVB penetration. Glycolic products, such as M.D. Forte, promote superficial exfoliation and promote dermal thickening, as do the tretinoin (vitamin A acids) derivatives (Retin A) and the retinol (vitamin A alcohols) derivatives of retinol creams. Many physicians will combine many of the ingredients and products into customized skincare programs designed specifically to address the skin needs of individual clients.<
Agents such as hydroquinone, Kojic acid and bilberry can fade dermal pigmentation by shutting off the enzyme tyrosinase, which results in melanin production. Through turning off melanin production in the skin and slowly exfoliating the skin, one can achieve beautiful even skin tone at any age

Products containing DMAE and Alpha Lipoic are particularly effective for Anti-Aging.

Liposomes are tiny little balls of fat which deliver pharmacologically active ingredients to the dermis such as ascorbic acid, other antioxidants, tretinoins, oxygen containing molecules and moisturizing substances. Vitamin C and some of the components of Beef colostrum can stimulate the skin?s ability to withstand infection (immune system). Sun blocks are perhaps the best products to retard premature solar aging. A good, thick makeup base with a sun block within is a woman?s best friend!
 

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I remember this from reading something from Dr. Perricone or something. DMAE and Alpha Lipoic and Ester C are all great anti-aging.

Great posts!
Because I use Copper Peptides often - I take my C internally. You can do the same with DMAE also, and MSM. All of those have GREAT benefits for the skin both internally and externally. Just remember to NOT use a product that has Vit. C in it if you are using Copper Peptides - they will negate each other!
 

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Because I use Copper Peptides often - I take my C internally. You can do the same with DMAE also, and MSM. All of those have GREAT benefits for the skin both internally and externally. Just remember to NOT use a product that has Vit. C in it if you are using Copper Peptides - they will negate each other!
Interesting! Good to know....I may have to go and see what the heck....if I'm negating myself or what...he he he.
 

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I remember this from reading something from Dr. Perricone or something. DMAE and Alpha Lipoic and Ester C are all great anti-aging.

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thank you Martha!

Dr. Perricone has some great philosophy in regards to skincare - but his PRICES are out of this world and I REFUSE to pay that much for something unless it was the HOLY GRAIL! LOL For his prices I'd expect to see overnight results or even INSTANT ones!
 

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I use this anti-aging body cream by ezrioni. It is so amazing. It has collagen and vitamins. I notice that my skin is more elastic and much softer. It is called Shea Butter Anti-Wrinkle Body Cream. It is listed under the brand items for ezrioni. I really, really love it!
 

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Hi everyone! I'm a medical and beauty journalist and just discovered this site. Yes, DMAE, ALA, Vit C and possibly also peptides (jury's still out on those) are all super ingredients for providing skin cells with the materials they need to remain youthful. I have an unbiased blog on everything to do with skin and antiaging, so I'm writing all the time about less expensive versions of Perricone-like formulations. These often contain two or three times the amount of active ingredient as the company or individual manufacturing them is not paying heavily for PR and marketing.
 

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What do the general opinion of guys using anti-aging skin care products?
I have neglecting my skin for sometime now and I have mostly being using a good cleanser.

Hi everyone! I'm a medical and beauty journalist and just discovered this site. Yes, DMAE, ALA, Vit C and possibly also peptides (jury's still out on those) are all super ingredients for providing skin cells with the materials they need to remain youthful. I have an unbiased blog on everything to do with skin and antiaging, so I'm writing all the time about less expensive versions of Perricone-like formulations. These often contain two or three times the amount of active ingredient as the company or individual manufacturing them is not paying heavily for PR and marketing.
 

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What do the general opinion of guys using anti-aging skin care products?
I have neglecting my skin for sometime now and I have mostly being using a good cleanser.
Taken from a post on another forum I frequent:

There´s an endless amount of antioxidants that can be used in skincare and sunscreen is still the best topical "antioxidant" there is. It can prevent dermal and epidermal oxidation better than any other antioxidant. But because of the massive marketing of anti-wrinkle products most people seem to believe that a cream with exotic antioxidants in it will somehow prevent skin aging better than a cheap photostable sunscreen from Neutrogena, Loreal or Aveeno for example.

Which is not true. A sunscreen is more important, more effective and cheaper than topical antioxidants. C + E + ferulic acid can give you an SPF 8 at most and it´s the best studied topical formula to date.

So no antioxidant has yet shown to be more protective against photoaging than a SPF 8 sunscreen = what you will get in real life if you use a SPF 50+ in the normal amount that you would apply a cream. But using a topical antioxidant under your sunscreen and supplementing with some of them can add to the basic protection against UV-induced skin aging from your sunscreen.

I think TOPICAL VITAMIN C is the first antioxidant to get since it´s been thoroughly studied, it´s naturally found in skin and gets depleted in daylight. If you don´t use topical C you will have less than optimal amounts in your skin. Oral supplementation can only increase skins C to a certain limit. Topical C can increase the amount 20-fold. Vitamin C have been chosen by evolution as the main protector of the watery portions of your body. It´s the only antioxidant that directly can stimulate fibroblasts to synthesize new collagen and it brightens skin by moderating epidermal melanin. Pairing it with vitamin E equals greater protection (SPF 4). Adding polyphenols from olive extract or ferulic acid can double that to an SPF 8.

VITAMIN E also gets depleted by UV, as is Q10. Beiersdorf (Nivea, Eucerin, Juvena, La Prairie) did the original studies on topical Q10 so using their formulas is a safe bet. Topical Q10 will only accumulate in sebum though, so you may also want to also take it orally. Adding a green tea cream can possibly help with UV related inflammation.

Retin-A used nightly is highly suggested:

"Prescription-strength retinoids (better known by brand names like Retin-A, Tazorac, Atralin, Ziana, etc.) and their over-the-counter cousin retinol (available in products like Roc Retinol Correxion Deep Wrinkle Night Cream and Neutrogena Healthy Skin Night Cream may well be the most recommended products in the dermatological arsenal.

OK, I don't have statistics on this one - but I don't have a single colleague who wouldn't back me up on the wonders of retinoids! If you're not using one, though, and still need a little convincing, consider these excellent reasons to check out what you're missing:

1. Sure, just about every new facial cream these days claims to improve wrinkles - but retinoids are the only type of topical cream proven to do just that. Retinoids stimulate your skin to generate collagen and hyaluronic acid, two of the main components of your dermis, which give skin firmness and fullness.

But you don't have to take my word for it: In a study published in 2007, led by doctors at the University of Michigan Medical School, Ann Arbor, 0.4% retinol (a concentration you can even find in many over-the-counter products) was applied to 36 subjects with a mean age of 87 up to 3 times per week. After 24 weeks, the improvement to retinol-treated skin was dramatic, and clearly visible to the naked eye.

2. While retinoids are stimulating skin to produce more collage and hyaluronic acid, they're also slowing the age-related loss of those crucial skin components. That means they're simultaneously preventing lines and wrinkles that haven't yet formed.

3. Of course, there's more to great skin than the absence of lines and wrinkles, and retinoids can also improve a variety of other skin concerns. Let's start with increased radiance: Retinoids are powerful exfoliators, meaning that they help slough off the dead skins cells on skin's surface. In so doing, they smooth skin's texture and reveal younger, healthier cells - leaving you positively glowing.

4. By speeding your skin's natural cell turnover, retinoids can also help fade patches of hyperpigmentation. Sun damage, conditions like melasma, and even minor cuts and bug bites can leave behind dark patches on the skin. Once the cause of that hyperpigmentation is eliminated, it can still take a while for dark patches to disappear naturally. Retinoids, however, will speed up the process by which skin replaces itself, hastening the return of a healthy, even skin tone.

5. Retinoids are also highly effective in decreasing oil production - in fact, they first came to the attention of the dermatological community for the treatment of acne. (Lo and behold, dermatologists found over the years that the skin of patients they'd been treating for acne had fewer wrinkles and dark spots than untreated skin. That's when retinoids' anti-aging benefits began receiving greater attention.) Because they also exfoliate the dead skin cells that clog pores and contribute to acne, retinoids offer a two-pronged attack against breakouts.

6. Finally, retinoids are the best way to get the most bang for your skin-care buck. Yes, a prescription for a retinoid or a good over-the-counter retinol product is an investment - but these wonder products are also the best way to prepare your skin for every other product you use. By sloughing off that top layer of dead skin cells, retinoids prepare skin to better absorb every other skin care ingredient you use.

One final note: As you can see, I'm a big fan of retinoids - but not for women who are pregnant or breast-feeding; they should not use these ingredients."
 

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Hi everyone! I'm a medical and beauty journalist and just discovered this site. Yes, DMAE, ALA, Vit C and possibly also peptides (jury's still out on those) are all super ingredients for providing skin cells with the materials they need to remain youthful. I have an unbiased blog on everything to do with skin and antiaging, so I'm writing all the time about less expensive versions of Perricone-like formulations. These often contain two or three times the amount of active ingredient as the company or individual manufacturing them is not paying heavily for PR and marketing.
Hi, This is my first time on this site. I would like to know how to find out what products you recommend for anti-aging. Thank you
 
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