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Hello to everyone,

I've just joined the forum, having read quite a number of testimonials from those of you who have been following different types of facial exercise programmes.

I live in Paris, and have decided a little while ago to start doing something about my face. I've ordered two books, the one by Eva Fraser and the Facercise one by Carole Maggio. From what I've read, they're very, very different ( Eva says you should not squint, Carole actually advises you to do so for several eye exercises). Being quite new to the wolrd of facial exercise, I must admit I'm a bit lost, and would love to hear about your different experiences with those programmes.

Also, is there any risk of over-developing some muscles, especially when you have a square face? I remember reading that some thought in particluar that the NL lines became more visible.


I've had my husband take several photos of me , so as to be able to keep track of my progress. I'm quite a disciplined person, so I really hope to achieve something within the next few weeks.

Thank you for your comments and advice.
 

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Bonjour! I have to say I am not a believer in facial excercises because there is a mixed set of reviews and if muscles did so much good why is botox so popular? You have to be careful with a square face (I also have a square jaw) to not build the masseter muscle. It is the muscle around your jaw. It tends to be prominent in men and if you have a square jaw developing this will make you look like a man or female body builder (you see the women body-builders almost all have a bulging muscle in the back of the face near the jaw). It is very masculine and I would avoid any facial excercises with a square face. For some people it may work but the premise behind why it would work is that you essentially build the muscle and it works as "filler" for fat we lose underneath the skin as we age. The reality though is that it has to be a long term commitment as if you stop you have now stretched the skin even more!
 

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Hi Lexi2009,

I must admit I was a little doubtful at first, but changed my mind after seeing Eva's and Carole's Photos. I'm not too keen on Botox, quite simply because it is, first and foremost, a toxin, and only temporary. I reckon that I'm just like a lot of people, who would like to have a real go at "natural" methods, before giving in to more radical solutions. I'm 48 and have quite a few professional targets ahead of me, so looking my best is important.

If you do have some good tips, by all means, I'm all ears!
 

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Tretinoin, retin-a as it is called by brand, is better than anything I have used really in terms of wrinkle reduction. It is the only "proven" method to reducing wrinkles but only works so long as you use it and you tend to get worse before better. I have tried botox for lines I was starting to get on my forehead and around my eyes and now I do not as it is so expensive but I did not feel it was "radical". I think it gets a bad rap as I saw no real difference in my facial movements or expression, just saw less wrinkles. I just stopped because it was too expensive. The tretinoin has got rid of the developing wrinkles though.

That is my best advice but look around as others have tried a lot of things that seem to work for them!

Lexi
 

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HI French and welcome aboard!

I'm going to direct you to a link that discussed both the programs you mention:
Do you do Facial Exercises?

The only programs I have first-hand experience with are FlexEffect (Deb Rowley), Ageless If You Dare (Louise Annette) and Lea Eigard (briefly). They work for me, but I customize my program according to how my face looks and what I want to achieve.

You are right, some muscles can become overbuilt and look unnatural. Everyone's mileage can vary! In that case, back off the exercises for that muscle group. You will not cause permanent muscle build!

Do you do any type of deep facial massage with the exercises? I believe it is just as important as the exercises! The programs I referenced above give instructions as to how to do this massage.

Glad to know that there are more devotees here of massage!




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Tx for your comments

Having been to my dermatologist for advice about a year ago, I can absolutely confirm that the only cream that really has a proven effect on wrinkles ( from most specialists' point of view) is indeed Retin-A. Glad to know you think the same on the other side of the Atlantic, but a little surprised to hear you say it's expensive; I'll have to check, but I don't remember having paid a lot for it. One tube goes a long way, especially if used only once or twice a week. The only problem I had was that on my lower cheeks I had a sort of very itchy area 2 days after applying it . I solved the problem by adding a generous layer of moisturising cream ( Ictyane) on top of Retin-A.

Fawnie, I did read some time ago that thread, but it only answered part of my questions. I think I'll be restarting this topic on the anti-aging forum a little later, but here are some of my ( still unanswered) queries:

Are there specific exercices for different face shapes?

What's best for a square face : isometric or resistance exercises? ( I could do with a clear definition of the difference between the two)

If I want to reduce jowls and NL lines, tighten any sagging skin around the mouth area but not develop my muscles, are there any specific exercises that I should do?

I did look at Loulou's photos for those areas and I agree they are impressive. Has she devised exercises which you think particularly effective?
 

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French,
You have researched the subject very well!
To answer your question, as far as I know since the facial musculature is all interrelated, there are not specific exercises for certain face shapes. But there are certain exercises you could underplay to avoid accentuating the areas.
I would go to the FlexEffect forum and see what the experts have to say about it. I know the question has been addressed there many times:

FlexEffect Facialbuilding - FlexEffect 'Facialbuilders'

The FlexEffect site gives an explanation of what resistance exercise is:
Facial Exercise: FlexEffect Facialbuilding - the last word in facial training.

So yes, you might be interested in tone only (isometric) as Lea Eigard's program stresses somewhat .
The best jowl/chin/lower face exercise I have come across is this one from Lea Eigard (altho this is a resistance exercise and builds muscle as well as tone):

Lea Eigard - Chin Up Facial Exercises

I can really FEEL it working! But be careful if you have TMJ disorder since it puts a bit of stress on that joint.

LouLou's lip exercise is the best mouth tightener/lip builder:
Louise Annette - Book/free video

It's the one where she puts 3 fingers on her top lip. You will see it on the video - she shows you.

Hope this helps and please share your experiences with the other programs! I am not true to any certain program - I use the best from all!




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