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wow!! that is great information, I'm wondering if collagen can penetrate the skin?? if it would nobody would have wrinkles??
 

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Well. but there's much more involved that just collagen....there's elastin to name one.
Retin-A
triggers collagen and elastin production by the body.
Vit C serum helps with Retin-A to produce and breakdown elastin, so it remodels the skin.
Sunblock protects against collagen breakdown by the UVA/UVB light of the sun.
And the list goes on of ways to fight wrinkles....



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Well. but there's much more involved that just collagen....there's elastin to name one.
Retin-A
triggers collagen and elastin production by the body.
Vit C serum helps with Retin-A to produce and breakdown elastin, so it remodels the skin.
Sunblock protects against collagen breakdown by the UVA/UVB light of the sun.
And the list goes on of ways to fight wrinkles....
Is Botox the answer? L'Oreal is supposed to have a line of products that stimulate collagen regeneration. I don't know if it's possible. Peptides that are used in more expensive cosmetics are supposed to help. What about the baby quasar system? Q10? microdermabraision? ???
 

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I have read good things about Olay Regenerist line; it contains many ingredients of high-end lines. Is that the one you meant?

Surely all the things you mentioned can help with ageing, but I'd be chasing my tail using all of them!! I decided to stick with the science and use a few products wisely. I've tried about everything known, including bird poop, to find what works for me! I think everyone needs to find what works best for her own skin needs.

Just read and read! I found a lot of good info that I trust to be reliable here:Biology of Aging

Hope this is some help to yu!



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Fawnie: You tried bird poop?? I watch a show on it today, did it do anything to your skin??

You mentioned Vit C and Retinol, can they be used together??

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Hi Chelsie,

Yes, Retin-A and Vit C complement each other. Retin-A decomposes with light so I use it at nite and use vit c serum in the am.

Bird Poop: haha! I read that Oriental women have used it for centuries to whiten their skin. I tried it. It did that, but I thought it was pretty harsh so I quite using it. If I thought my skin was getting discolored, I would probably go back to it, but I think vit C serum and Retin-A do a good job for now.



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I'm totally confused about this issue. I always believed that collagen loss was the initial sign of aging -- that loss could be a indication of tissue reduction so your skin sags, also caused by the lack of elasticity. I didn't think there was any oral substance that you could take -- like a vitamin to increase collagen production. I thought that external stimulation of the skin promoted collagen production; I know Vit.C is good topically. Some new peptides are. I don't want to have to make a facemask out of sardines. Help?
 

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I'm totally confused about this issue. I always believed that collagen loss was the initial sign of aging -- that loss could be a indication of tissue reduction so your skin sags, also caused by the lack of elasticity. I didn't think there was any oral substance that you could take -- like a vitamin to increase collagen production. I thought that external stimulation of the skin promoted collagen production; I know Vit.C is good topically. Some new peptides are. I don't want to have to make a facemask out of sardines. Help?
I am equally confused, Mari. Hope someone will soon enlighten us on this issue.
 

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I am equally confused, Mari. Hope someone will soon enlighten us on this issue.
While in the Health Food store a year ago I talked to another customer about my hair problem. She recommended BioSil which I have been taking since. I just read all the info on the bottle and it contains Orthosillicic acid which is essential for collagen synthesis and regulates calcium deposition in bones. Orthosillicic acid aids the formation of healthy connective tissue, strong bones, smooth skin, shiny hair and hard nails. (from the label).

So I guess this is one collagen pill.?
 

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Go back up to the 5th post from the top of this thread and click on the link for an explanation of collagen and where to buy oral supplements and topical collagen. The collagen molecule is too large to penetrate the epidermis. All it can do is sit there and be a moisturizer.
Mari is right - the things she mentioned can stimulate collagen synthesis. Hyaluronic acid orally can help too. Bio-Sil, MSM and Vit C orally also.



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Does anyone know if some genius has combined all of these ingredients to make one age defying pill?
 

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Go back up to the 5th post from the top of this thread and click on the link for an explanation of collagen and where to buy oral supplements and topical collagen. The collagen molecule is too large to penetrate the epidermis. All it can do is sit there and be a moisturizer.
Mari is right - the things she mentioned can stimulate collagen synthesis. Hyaluronic acid orally can help too. Bio-Sil, MSM and Vit C orally also.
Thanks Fawnie. Does it mean if I take Vit c orally, will it help in collagen production in my body and skin in general?
 
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