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This question is for gymrat and everyone else, please help if you can. I’m also considering a DIY kojic acid lotion.

So if I mix

10.0 ml of KA
4.0 ml of Niacinamide
6.0 ml of AA
With a 200 ml lotion bottle that would be enough?

Not heating, no preservatives? Do I need to do a weekly batch or is it ok to do it all at once? It wouldn’t oxidize or lose its potency?

If this is the case you suggest a well known water-based base lotion that I can find in the supermarket/drug store?
For the body I would recommend Gold Bond for the face Cerave lotion not the cream version but their lotion version. Or Cetaphil lotion.
 

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Any Good face cream base ?
Did you try the face cream of the brand ziajia you got for the body? Seems its a new brand. But as Gymrat said the trusted cetaphil/cera ve will do.
This the lotion ? I use this on my body during the day coz of my dry dry skin , still i need to apply After every 4 hours 🤣 , my skin is so dry!
So i can add KA and Niacinamide for face cream or i can also add Alpha Arbutin? I have alot of dark spot in my face just hope to clear them fast as possible.

Another thing , my body Mixtur can i use to clear knuckles too? Or because it has Alpha Arbutin will make them more dark?
I have tried to clear dark knuckles but all invain 😏 and so embarassing.
 

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Any Good face cream base ?
Did you try the face cream of the brand ziajia you got for the body? Seems its a new brand. But as Gymrat said the trusted cetaphil/cera ve will do.
This the lotion ? I use this on my body during the day coz of my dry dry skin , still i need to apply After every 4 hours 🤣 , my skin is so dry!
So i can add KA and Niacinamide for face cream or i can also add Alpha Arbutin? I have alot of dark spot in my face just hope to clear them fast as possible.

Another thing , my body Mixtur can i use to clear knuckles too? Or because it has Alpha Arbutin will make them more dark?
I have tried to clear dark knuckles but all invain 😏 and so embarassing.
Yes that is the cream, although this is the french version i guess. Kojic Acid,Niacinamide and Alpha Arbutin are great to use together, just make tiny batches cuz it took me a long time to figure out that my face doesn’t go well with kojic acid, so smaller batches help incase anything goes wrong.

Whenever you apply your creams, always bend your knuckles and take extra time rubbing in enough cream there,your knuckles are not bad at all, you can always try lactic acid or yellow peeling oil,follow instructions and peel off the darker areas.

As for arbutin darkening the knuckles,it doesn’t for me,i see some people say it does, it’s not direct HQ so i see no reason why it should, you need to try it and see what works for you, if in doubt and to be safe then just use Kojic acid and Niacinamide for your body mix and the arbutin for face mixture.

For your overly dry skin, you can add any oils for your skin type to your cream for body ie or glycerin,or immediately after applying your body cream, you can apply the oil over it. I always include oils in my cream mix as i also have dry skin. HTH
 

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Any Good face cream base ?
Did you try the face cream of the brand ziajia you got for the body? Seems its a new brand. But as Gymrat said the trusted cetaphil/cera ve will do.
This the lotion ? I use this on my body during the day coz of my dry dry skin , still i need to apply After every 4 hours 🤣 , my skin is so dry!
So i can add KA and Niacinamide for face cream or i can also add Alpha Arbutin? I have alot of dark spot in my face just hope to clear them fast as possible.

Another thing , my body Mixtur can i use to clear knuckles too? Or because it has Alpha Arbutin will make them more dark?
I have tried to clear dark knuckles but all invain 😏 and so embarassing.
Yes that is the cream, although this is the french version i guess. Kojic Acid,Niacinamide and Alpha Arbutin are great to use together, just make tiny batches cuz it took me a long time to figure out that my face doesn’t go well with kojic acid, so smaller batches help incase anything goes wrong.

Whenever you apply your creams, always bend your knuckles and take extra time rubbing in enough cream there,your knuckles are not bad at all, you can always try lactic acid or yellow peeling oil,follow instructions and peel off the darker areas.

As for arbutin darkening the knuckles,it doesn’t for me,i see some people say it does, it’s not direct HQ so i see no reason why it should, you need to try it and see what works for you, if in doubt and to be safe then just use Kojic acid and Niacinamide for your body mix and the arbutin for face mixture.

For your overly dry skin, you can add any oils for your skin type to your cream for body ie or glycerin,or immediately after applying your body cream, you can apply the oil over it. I always include oils in my cream mix as i also have dry skin. HTH
Thanks alot for this infos...i will layer my body lotion with oils. I when and did my face cream , i so excited , ganz wait to try out hoping will clear my dark Spots. Will Post review After 2 Weeks or a month of use.
I Used diy rose water to disolve the powders , thats why it has that pinkish color.
 

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Any Good face cream base ?
Did you try the face cream of the brand ziajia you got for the body? Seems its a new brand. But as Gymrat said the trusted cetaphil/cera ve will do.
This the lotion ? I use this on my body during the day coz of my dry dry skin , still i need to apply After every 4 hours 🤣 , my skin is so dry!
So i can add KA and Niacinamide for face cream or i can also add Alpha Arbutin? I have alot of dark spot in my face just hope to clear them fast as possible.

Another thing , my body Mixtur can i use to clear knuckles too? Or because it has Alpha Arbutin will make them more dark?
I have tried to clear dark knuckles but all invain 😏 and so embarassing.
Yes that is the cream, although this is the french version i guess. Kojic Acid,Niacinamide and Alpha Arbutin are great to use together, just make tiny batches cuz it took me a long time to figure out that my face doesn’t go well with kojic acid, so smaller batches help incase anything goes wrong.

Whenever you apply your creams, always bend your knuckles and take extra time rubbing in enough cream there,your knuckles are not bad at all, you can always try lactic acid or yellow peeling oil,follow instructions and peel off the darker areas.

As for arbutin darkening the knuckles,it doesn’t for me,i see some people say it does, it’s not direct HQ so i see no reason why it should, you need to try it and see what works for you, if in doubt and to be safe then just use Kojic acid and Niacinamide for your body mix and the arbutin for face mixture.

For your overly dry skin, you can add any oils for your skin type to your cream for body ie or glycerin,or immediately after applying your body cream, you can apply the oil over it. I always include oils in my cream mix as i also have dry skin. HTH
Thanks alot for this infos...i will layer my body lotion with oils. I when and did my face cream , i so excited , ganz wait to try out hoping will clear my dark Spots. Will Post review After 2 Weeks or a month of use.
I Used diy rose water to disolve the powders , thats why it has that pinkish color.
Yaaaaaaay!!!! Keep us posted..
 

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Thanks alot for this infos...i will layer my body lotion with oils. I when and did my face cream , i so excited , ganz wait to try out hoping will clear my dark Spots. Will Post review After 2 Weeks or a month of use.
I Used diy rose water to disolve the powders , thats why it has that pinkish color.
YES! Now mix this into your lotion base and your off and running. The base you have you can use on your face and your body. Be consistent, use every day, there isn't anything in there that will cause you harm. SO many lotions on the market these days have these exact ingredients in them. CeraVe actually has a lotion with Niacinamide I've used it and added more to boost the %. The lotion you have is the french version but is the same as the US version. You will be good to go :thumbsup:

As for your dry skin, I would consider using your current mix in the AM and try using LA lotion in the PM. LA lotion is really good for dry skin it helps the skin exfoliate and allow products to penetrate easier but also helps moisture retain. It helps the skin stay soft and supple. Give it a thought. AS for your knuckles, they don't look bad at all, your making progress, and steps in the right direction! I'm so happy for you @Brownmom
 

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Thanks alot for this infos...i will layer my body lotion with oils. I when and did my face cream , i so excited , ganz wait to try out hoping will clear my dark Spots. Will Post review After 2 Weeks or a month of use.
I Used diy rose water to disolve the powders , thats why it has that pinkish color.
YES! Now mix this into your lotion base and your off and running. The base you have you can use on your face and your body. Be consistent, use every day, there isn't anything in there that will cause you harm. SO many lotions on the market these days have these exact ingredients in them. CeraVe actually has a lotion with Niacinamide I've used it and added more to boost the %. The lotion you have is the french version but is the same as the US version. You will be good to go


As for your dry skin, I would consider using your current mix in the AM and try using LA lotion in the PM. LA lotion is really good for dry skin it helps the skin exfoliate and allow products to penetrate easier but also helps moisture retain. It helps the skin stay soft and supple. Give it a thought. AS for your knuckles, they don't look bad at all, your making progress, and steps in the right direction! I'm so happy for you @Brownmom
Thanks dear @gymrat..u hv help me alot ...feel like hugging u right now
 

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Thanks alot for this infos...i will layer my body lotion with oils. I when and did my face cream , i so excited , ganz wait to try out hoping will clear my dark Spots. Will Post review After 2 Weeks or a month of use.
I Used diy rose water to disolve the powders , thats why it has that pinkish color.
YES! Now mix this into your lotion base and your off and running. The base you have you can use on your face and your body. Be consistent, use every day, there isn't anything in there that will cause you harm. SO many lotions on the market these days have these exact ingredients in them. CeraVe actually has a lotion with Niacinamide I've used it and added more to boost the %. The lotion you have is the french version but is the same as the US version. You will be good to go


As for your dry skin, I would consider using your current mix in the AM and try using LA lotion in the PM. LA lotion is really good for dry skin it helps the skin exfoliate and allow products to penetrate easier but also helps moisture retain. It helps the skin stay soft and supple. Give it a thought. AS for your knuckles, they don't look bad at all, your making progress, and steps in the right direction! I'm so happy for you @Brownmom
Thanks dear @gymrat..u hv help me alot ...feel like hugging u right now
isn’t she so helpful? My god I could go to gymmie with anything and I mean anything 🙂
 

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I odered these and came today... i want to add into my Regiment. What dosage do you recommend @gymrat?
I will also transfer my Glutathione caps to acid resistant capsules.....i read somewhere that will help to get direct to blond streamt quicker .
@Brownmom not gymmie this is how I would take them:
AM - 2 caps glutha + 2 caps vit C + 1 cap Milk Thistle (take these on an empty stomach or 2 hours after breakfast)
Midday with lunch or dinner - 1 Cap NAC
PM - 2 caps glutha + 2 caps vit C + 1 cap Milk Thistle + 1 Cap Super Collagen (take these 1-2 hours after dinner)

Jarrows glutha capsules are acid resistant so you don`t need to transfer them. Acid resistant caps are normally for DIY capsules using powder glutathione. Also I read that you have to cycle NAC, don`t take it continously w/out a break. hth
 

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I odered these and came today... i want to add into my Regiment. What dosage do you recommend @gymrat?
I will also transfer my Glutathione caps to acid resistant capsules.....i read somewhere that will help to get direct to blond streamt quicker .
@Brownmom not gymmie this is how I would take them:
AM - 2 caps glutha + 2 caps vit C + 1 cap Milk Thistle (take these on an empty stomach or 2 hours after breakfast)
Midday with lunch or dinner - 1 Cap NAC
PM - 2 caps glutha + 2 caps vit C + 1 cap Milk Thistle + 1 Cap Super Collagen (take these 1-2 hours after dinner)

Jarrows glutha capsules are acid resistant so you don`t need to transfer them. Acid resistant caps are normally for DIY capsules using powder glutathione. Also I read that you have to cycle NAC, don`t take it continously w/out a break. hth
Thanks @Mazikeen
So i should take NAC After every other day? Is it a must to Add MSM since i see alot in here use MSM ..i just a little bit scared that will be too much 😂😂
 

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Thanks @Mazikeen
So i should take NAC After every other day? Is it a must to Add MSM since i see alot in here use MSM ..i just a little bit scared that will be too much 😂😂
@Brownmom You can take NAC everyday, just take a break after every 6mths. you can add msm if you like just increase the doses slowly since msm also detoxes and when combined with milk thistle & nac it could be too much if you take high doses. get the powder, better than caps.
 

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Thanks gymrat.

I decided to add a kojic acid lotion to my regime, does anyone know if I can mix Kojic acid powder, nacanmide powder and alpha Arbutin powder with Cetaphil lotion directly without heating, water or preservatives? I’ll make 100 ml weekly.

I’ll also add supplements. here’s what I’m taking: 1000g vitamin c, 600g s-acetyl l-glutathione, a hair supplement (Priorin) and 120g grape seed extract (for blood circulation and health)

I’m scared of mega dosing so what’s a reasonable dose of MSM powder that will make a difference? Should I also take niacinamide powder orally?
 
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