[iwantgreatskin]

I am thinking of buying this and using it as my vitamin C serum of choice....

It seems to be 10%....is this a good choice?

 

[charstackpole]

I used the product a year ago and it seemed to be ok. No drastic noticible changes though. I stopped using it when I found out from the Skin Deep cosmetic safety database that the product is not all natural. I felt somewhat decieved by it.

There are many all natural and organic products out there for the same price if not less. You guys are probably gonna get sick of hearing me talk about all natural products but it truly changes people's lives.

 

[periwinkle]

I am thinking of buying this and using it as my vitamin C serum of choice....

It seems to be 10%....is this a good choice?

I've seen this one before. What exactly is their definition of 10% complete C complex?
This is not saying it is a 10% C serum. Play on words. And no mention of PH level. Needs to be under 3.5PH to be effective. Plus Ester C is not an ideal C for a serum. Most clinical studies use ascorbic acid which is a proven commodity. I saw your not interested in paying big bucks for a good one like Skinceuticals CE Ferulic ($90-$120)
or making your own. I suggest rolling up your sleaves and making your own. Easy to do and very cheap compared to buying it. There are a couple of good recipes here.

http://www.drugstore.com/qxp40895_33...ng_therapy.htm

 

[periwinkle]

I used the product a year ago and it seemed to be ok. No drastic noticible changes though. I stopped using it when I found out from the Skin Deep cosmetic safety database that the product is not all natural. I felt somewhat decieved by it.

There are many all natural and organic products out there for the same price if not less. You guys are probably gonna get sick of hearing me talk about all natural products but it truly changes people's lives.

You might find this interesting. Maybe not.
http://www.skincaretalk.com/introduc...html#post56306

Skin Deep Database leads many people to believe almost anything you use is dangerous.

 

[iwantgreatskin]

well could you please suggest a regimine for me which is cost effective?

right now i use:

cetaphil
olay regenerist 15spf moisturizer
neutrogenal anti-oxidant - before bed....

are these products good for their purpose? and what would you recommend that I add besides a Vit C serum? Maybe retin A?

 

[periwinkle]

well could you please suggest a regimine for me which is cost effective?

right now i use:

cetaphil
olay regenerist 15spf moisturizer
neutrogenal anti-oxidant - before bed....

are these products good for their purpose? and what would you recommend that I add besides a Vit C serum? Maybe retin A?

Yes Tretinoin (retin-a) is a great idea. If I remember correctly from another post, your around 29 right? Great age to start. Can be bought for cheap online with no RX.
I also suggest using a better sunscreen. Especially using retin-a. Search around here and I'm sure you'll read me saying something about the good ones.....lol

 

[iwantgreatskin]

cool, thanks....and yes, im 29....

do you know of a good moisturizer/sunscreen combo?

you dont think the spf 15 in my olay moisturizer is sufficient?

btw, my mom uses RoC, which she buys from costco....heard of it?

 

[periwinkle]

cool, thanks....and yes, im 29....

do you know of a good moisturizer/sunscreen combo?

you dont think the spf 15 in my olay moisturizer is sufficient?

btw, my mom uses RoC, which she buys from costco....heard of it?

My rule is find the best sunscreen and if it has a moisturizer in it, that's a plus if you need one.
Well I'm kinda known as the sunscreen guru around here....lol....so I think that sunscreen is pretty much CRAP.

.....

To save me some typing...read this thread.

http://www.skincaretalk.com/skin-lig...-sunblock.html

 

[iwantgreatskin]

peri

I saw you recommend this in a post as a sunblock - Neutrogena Ultra Sheer Dry Touch Sunblock SPF 55. Still think its a good choice?

Also, are you familiar with the RoC product?

 

[periwinkle]

peri

I saw you recommend this in a post as a sunblock - Neutrogena Ultra Sheer Dry Touch Sunblock SPF 55. Still think its a good choice?

Also, are you familiar with the RoC product?

Yes I'd think it's much better than the Olay one. All I know is Roc is a retinol product.

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"Prescription-strength retinoids (better known by brand names like Retin-A, Tazorac, Atralin, Ziana, etc.) and their over-the-counter cousin retinol (available in products like Roc Retinol Correxion Deep Wrinkle Night Cream and Neutrogena Healthy Skin Night Cream may well be the most recommended products in the dermatological arsenal. Retin-A is more powerful than OTC retinol and also produces stronger side effects such as skin redness and flaking. Many people give up too soon and do not reap the rewards. Start slowly, use lower strength formulas if necessary. Once your over the "side effect" stage, it will all be worth it with your new glow.

A retinoid will increase collagen synthesis and prevent skin aging by inhibiting MMPs like collagenase and elastase, enzymes that degrade support proteins in your skin. It will also brighten skin tone, clean out pores, prevent and treat acne and enhance hyaluronic acid synthesis that adds volume and hydration to firm skin. It will help your skin repair the damage from daylight that the sunscreen + topical antioxidant cocktail let through. (more on the cocktail in a moment). If that is not the description of a miracle cream then what is?


If you're not using one, though, and still need a little convincing, consider these excellent reasons to check out what you're missing:

1. Sure, just about every new facial cream these days claims to improve wrinkles - but retinoids are the only type of topical cream proven to do just that. Retinoids stimulate your skin to generate collagen and hyaluronic acid, two of the main components of your dermis, which give skin firmness and fullness.

But you don't have to take my word for it: In a study published in 2007, led by doctors at the University of Michigan Medical School, Ann Arbor, 0.4% retinol (a concentration you can even find in many over-the-counter products) was applied to 36 subjects with a mean age of 87 up to 3 times per week. After 24 weeks, the improvement to retinol-treated skin was dramatic, and clearly visible to the naked eye.

2. While retinoids are stimulating skin to produce more collage and hyaluronic acid, they're also slowing the age-related loss of those crucial skin components. That means they're simultaneously preventing lines and wrinkles that haven't yet formed.

3. Of course, there's more to great skin than the absence of lines and wrinkles, and retinoids can also improve a variety of other skin concerns. Let's start with increased radiance: Retinoids are powerful exfoliators, meaning that they help slough off the dead skins cells on skin's surface. In so doing, they smooth skin's texture and reveal younger, healthier cells - leaving you positively glowing.

4. By speeding your skin's natural cell turnover, retinoids can also help fade patches of hyperpigmentation. Sun damage, conditions like melasma, and even minor cuts and bug bites can leave behind dark patches on the skin. Once the cause of that hyperpigmentation is eliminated, it can still take a while for dark patches to disappear naturally. Retinoids, however, will speed up the process by which skin replaces itself, hastening the return of a healthy, even skin tone.

5. Retinoids are also highly effective in decreasing oil production - in fact, they first came to the attention of the dermatological community for the treatment of acne. (Lo and behold, dermatologists found over the years that the skin of patients they'd been treating for acne had fewer wrinkles and dark spots than untreated skin. That's when retinoids' anti-aging benefits began receiving greater attention.) Because they also exfoliate the dead skin cells that clog pores and contribute to acne, retinoids offer a two-pronged attack against breakouts.

6. Finally, retinoids are the best way to get the most bang for your skin-care buck. Yes, a prescription for a retinoid or a good over-the-counter retinol product is an investment - but these wonder products are also the best way to prepare your skin for every other product you use. By sloughing off that top layer of dead skin cells, retinoids prepare skin to better absorb every other skin care ingredient you use.

 

[iwantgreatskin]

cool....so i will order some retin a....

you apply it nightly correct?

 

[iwantgreatskin]

periwinkle....

curious, why did you recommend Neutrogena Ultra Sheer Dry Touch Sunblock SPF 55 out of all the sunblocks out there?

i am assuming there is some other reason beside it just being spf 55, correct? if so, why?

 

[oranges]

You might find this interesting. Maybe not.
http://www.skincaretalk.com/introduc...html#post56306

Skin Deep Database leads many people to believe almost anything you use is dangerous.

I remember looking at the database and it is"safety" not what is natural. I remember seeing ascorbic acid as one of the "unsafe" ingredeints. Can't remember why. I've had too many great results with the c to quit.

 

[periwinkle]

periwinkle....

curious, why did you recommend Neutrogena Ultra Sheer Dry Touch Sunblock SPF 55 out of all the sunblocks out there?

i am assuming there is some other reason beside it just being spf 55, correct? if so, why?

Oh it's most definetely not the best one out there. It's just one of the best ones you can buy in the states. Best ones are sold in europe.

 

[gymrat]

You might find this interesting. Maybe not.
http://www.skincaretalk.com/introduc...html#post56306

Skin Deep Database leads many people to believe almost anything you use is dangerous.

So true about Skin Deep Database. I quite going to their site-