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So I have NEVER had super clear skin in my life and it sucks. I just got off of accutane and want my face just to be clear. Right now there are some acne marks, these black dots (not moles so i am guessing they are black headsears but I've had them for like y) and just relatively uneven brown skin. The accutane has cleared up the acne and I am super pleased with it...but my face just has some acne scars mixed with minor craters...at the end of the day I'm upset at my genetics and I just want to fix it starting topically and perhaps later considering dermatologic lasers (fractional lasers, fraxel, etc...) Its the skin and not so much my facial features I am upset about (so its not like im thinking about plastics or anything)


With this in mind, I was curious from someone who went from bad skin to perfectly super clear skin of the same texture and without any specks (acne, whiteheads, blackheads)...what regimen worked best for you? I have been cleansing with cetaphil and st ives exfoliator and using likas papaya soap and they are good products...but I don't think they are really dealing with the problem at hand. What products/regimen worked for you guys...? I'd like to get that natural brown shiny tone based on my ethnic look. Or are topicals simply futile and do I need to start seeking out procedures?

Thanks a lot!
 

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Try using a cleanser with Salicylic Acid as the active ingredient, dump the St Ives exfoliator and get a microfiber cloth. Use Thayers Alcohol Free Witch Hazel as a toner in the PM after cleansing. Apply 1-2 drops of jojoba oil as a moisturizer and call it done-


During the day make sure you are using sunscreen ALWAYS!!!!
 

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Well, using Accutane for me was a start...as far as acne control goes. My skin was very splotchy with acne, blackheads, acne scarring etc before using it...

after going off of Accutane, then waiting about 4-6 months, I had a series of Jessner's, glycolics & TCA peels administered at my derm's office on my face and neck, and back to remove acne scars...(over a year's time)

It really%
 

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Hey sunkissed, so with regard to peels...if you did go see a dermatologist, how much did those peels cost and what was the regimen like specifically (could your breakdown by cost)?

I am also at that 6 month post-accutane mark so I am considering doing that.
 

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Also, in addition, what are your thoughts on buying my own peels off amazon? I dont have ACNE but I just have random residual acne scars/crater-like lines/blackheads...its somewhat mild and not insanely glaring so in the interest of cost/time/convenience, would you recommend any certain peels to try once a week perhaps?

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Hey sunkissed, so with regard to peels...if you did go see a dermatologist, how much did those peels cost and what was the regimen like specifically (could your breakdown by cost)?

I am also at that 6 month post-accutane mark so I am considering doing that.
Hi transformers,

My computer is very sloowww
... I guess the server edited/cut out my other remarks because my pc took too long to transfer the data...anyway...

I was stating that for most people, me included, once clear skin is attained, it is a lifetime commitment to maintain it and help it to stay clean, clear, moisturized, and looking it's best. I use Retin-A to help keep minor acne breakouts at bay, as well.

Peel prices vary by providers, so I personally would check licensed dermatologists, spas, and esthetician's offices to gauge a median price range for your local area...make sure they are all licensed...


I purchased a peel package (about $500 at the time) that consisted of a microdermabrasion- $120 treatment, followed by a Jessner's peel- $250 and up, and 3 glycolics - $75 for face/$95 for body if purchased individually...I did not have to pay all at once... (I was allowed to pay as I went along because I am an established long time patient the derm's office.

I was given a glycolic toner to prep with for about 10 days pre-peel (for oily/combination acne skin), a HQ/RA combo physician's formulated custom cream to prevent hyperpigmentation, and a Vitamin C powder to mix & apply at home post peel.

I prefer to go into my derm for peels when at all possible for the initial peels, (just because I feel the medical grades are stronger and can contain more beneficial ingredients/actives, lighteners, and can be combined with other acids, just my opinion)then continue to maintain them at home with DIY peels...
 

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Also, in addition, what are your thoughts on buying my own peels off amazon? I dont have ACNE but I just have random residual acne scars/crater-like lines/blackheads...its somewhat mild and not insanely glaring so in the interest of cost/time/convenience, would you recommend any certain peels to try once a week perhaps?

Thanks.
If you are the oily/combination skin type, I would recommend glycolic acid for acne scars at 20% to start and then increasing up to 30%. You would have to stay on schedule as far as routinely getting a series of peels done at regular intervals to see dramatic results. Glycolic is more intense, you will actually see the layers of damaged skin shed...Improvement is very noticable, yet, also careful when applying to avoid chemical burns.

Salicylic is more soothing, gentle, and drying for acne prone skin. Both would work equally well, but I think you would need to do more peel cycles to see results that can be produced rapidly by using glycolic. 10% salicylic acid or glycolic acid peels to start, can be used to prep the skin to prepare it for the peel beforehand. Salicylic 15%-30% will help remove oil and superficial skin cells and allow the skin to gradually shed discolorations.

As for the fine craters and pit marks, scars, hyperpigmentation, a Jessner's peel solution could knock all of this out in one whop without having to complete a series of glycolics, but you would have to prepared for the intensity & the peeling skin downtime....so, it's personal preference, more than anything else combined with how quickly you wish to see results. With the Jessner's, you just keep layering it according to your skin type, the amt of damage, and desired outcome/results....and b/c of the intensity of the peel, I preferred going into the derm's to get it professionally done & to ask LOTS of questions before even attempting try to do any peel at home.

So, pick a reputable company to buy your peels from. I usually don't recommend sites, but, I'm sure others could offer more variety, I just basically purchase from platinumskincare.com
, they provide instructions and a high quality product line....


and if I am on a serious budget, I usually just purchase from E-bay according to the product I am looking for and seller's rating score.
 

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For glowing skin I'd suggest the oil cleansing method. Don't be scared of the oilit really cleans the pores deep deep down. It's amazing you can feel all the grit from your pores while you rub the oil into your skin. LNL has a thread on oil cleansers. You can also make your own at home!

I also second the peels and microfiber cloth ideas (not together though!).
 

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Hey sunkissed, so with regard to peels...if you did go see a dermatologist, how much did those peels cost and what was the regimen like specifically (could your breakdown by cost)?

I am also at that 6 month post-accutane mark so I am considering doing that.
I had a series of microderms/peels done by my Dr. I can't remember exactly how much it was............but it wasn't cheap!! In my opinion you can do your own peels for alot cheaper and have great results, depending on the the severity of your scars.

So maybe look into doing a couple professional microderms and then do a couple peels on your own.
 

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Another factor to consider - is what you put IN your body, not just ON it.

You must manage your hormones as well, which foods and supplements can greatly help.

Your diet plays such a role in the clarify of your skin.
 

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I have been on antibiotics for almost 2 years to treat my acne and wasn't going anywhere. It had helped a little, but all of a sudden, I decided to change my diet; I basically just started eating more fruits and vegetables (went from maybe 2-3 portions a day to 8-10) and within 2 weeks, my skin magically cleared. I told my derm. that his drugs didn't do much, but as soon as I increased f&v portions, my skin cleared up and he said that normally fruits and vegetables don't have that much of an impact. I swear that my skin got clear (and a LOT) when I started eating more f&v. Maybe he was offended... Who knows!

Anyways, I started eating mostly fruits FILLED with water (cucumber, melons) and replaced my sandwich with a spinach salad with tomatoes and meat.

Maybe you think like my derm and don't believe that f&v have this much power, but it doesn't cost much to try!!!

It has made such a big change that I no longer am obliged to wear foundation (which is HUGE for me!).

Good luck.

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What IS accutane btw? Should I try it? even though I don't have a lot of acne, and I basically have it under control, however when I DO get acne I always get left with marks in the end that NEVER go away, actually theres one right where my T-zone area is, i mean just under my eyebrows in the middle and it's embarrasing, I want it gone right away, anyways I dont get acne much, but when I do, its a problem, should I try accutane?
 

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What IS accutane btw? Should I try it? even though I don't have a lot of acne, and I basically have it under control, however when I DO get acne I always get left with marks in the end that NEVER go away, actually theres one right where my T-zone area is, i mean just under my eyebrows in the middle and it's embarrasing, I want it gone right away, anyways I dont get acne much, but when I do, its a problem, should I try accutane?
No you don't need Accutane for mild acne. Accutane is for those with severe acne or those with cystic acne. It really is the last resort for acne suffers.

Have you tried any topicals or prescriptions from a Dr?? Sometimes a few months on antibiotics is all it takes. There are several you could try. Also using a good topical every night works wonders for some.

Info on Accutane
Accutane Information from Drugs.com

great topicals:
Clindamycin
BenzaClin
Duac
 

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I do like the skin laboratory peels on Amazon.

It was one of the very first peels that I ever purchased. I like the fact that are neatly packaged in dark bottles that make them last longer for storage and helps them keep their efficacy.

They also shipped fast. I had no problem with the usage of the product and it did come with instructions.
 

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I been on Retin A since JAN 9, and just did my second TCA peel today (around 21-25% I estimate), I put a few layers on as well. It was a spare of the moment, not preplanned, but I was like "hmm today is a good day to do some peeling". It burned like hell too because I applied a glob of Retin A on Tuesday, so don't ever do a Retin A the day before (well I knew but I did it anyways... since I think it's just the pain factor). But my eyes tear up and I was like, "this is all for the sake of beauty." Now that I am professional at TCA peel, I just do them. The first one was the major lesson of all.

Anyways, the retin a cleared up my acne pretty well, and tca peeling has done a good job on removing the marks off my face. It's a slow process, but I aim to have "PERFECT" "FLAWLESS" "BEAUTIFUL" skin by May.

I will be doing another TCA peel in about 2 weeks, and a major one of about 50% in April. My skin can handle 50% peel I realize, but that's going to burn like hell. God I better be prepare for that one.

edit: WOW I just did the first TCA peel exactly two weeks ago.
 

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A few points of clarification for new members of SCT regarding the use of RA and TCA peels

1 - it is recommended that Retin A be stopped at least 1 week or more prior to applying a TCA peel. This is NOT a 'pain' thing - it is to help avoid scarring, pih, or infections.

2 - It is recommended that at least 3 weeks go between peels. Again, this is to allow the skin time to properly heal - again, to reduce the risk of scarring, pih or infection.

3 - 50% TCA should never ever be used on skin. This is not even done by professional derms or plastic surgeons.
 
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