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Well. that's a good question, Mari.

I know that Vit C stays in the cells for a long time...days...once in the cells it cannot be washed off.

Some products are encapsulated in nanospheres and theoretically they get down into the lower layers of the skin.

But I don't know about any others..



 

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Well. that's a good question, Mari.

I know that Vit C stays in the cells for a long time...days...once in the cells it cannot be washed off.

Some products are encapsulated in nanospheres and theoretically they get down into the lower layers of the skin.

But I don't know about any others..
It's interesting I think, cause you put all this goop on your face and maybe after an hour it doesn't do anything else for your skin except clog pores. I know they have now developed time-release products but there aren't many available; Vit C I know is culmative, any other ingredient?
 

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Surely though this is why we should all stick to just a few good products that we know will work for us and go to beauty salon regularly if we can to get pores unclogged! I tell you what I never had bad pores etc till I started on anti anging, all they used to do was moisturize and exfloliate and it never led to any of these probs were all having!! Peptides etc do they really do anything? Are they worth even buying!? Probably Not!
I think its important as well to learn how to massage ingredients into your face properly and never use anything that is too heavy for your skin!!
Also unfortunatly I feel that and may be some will disagree by the time you get into your late 20s can you really change your skin anyway, surely someone who has eaten badly all there life will just end up with worse problems than someone who has always looked after themselves and will prob forever have good skin! Stress is a big factor too!
 

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Well, retinoids for sure.
Right now I sitting here trying to hydrate areas of my face -- which looks like a pool of grease right now. (applied at 8 a.m.) So I ask myself is this cream's ingredients going to continue to work until 11 p.m. or should I take if off now. What I can't figure out is a product has all these ingredients that are supposed to help your skin; you apply it to your face or whereever you want to be beautiful, but once it's applied, does the malic acid, camellia sinensis, etc., stop working after an hour or on penetration of the upper layer of the skin?


(I think I'm going to follow this up with a manufacturer.)
 

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Ok I see what you mean I think. Are you concerned that the products are just sitting there not doing anything?

Do you hydrate your skin before you apply a thin layer of the oil or cream? That helps it spread more evenly and you find you don't need as much. Sealing in a moisturizer that contains hyaluronic acid with a light layer of oil helps the HA to hydrate the skin and keeps it from evaporating. HA in small percentages attracts and binds moisture.

The BabyQ LED device people say that it "pushes actives into the skin". I don't know about that, but it warms the skin and increases the circulation so in that way I guess it helps.

Acids definitely do their job and the effect is permanent until the cells are shed. They break down tissue so that it can be remodeled later.
Is this what you mean?



 

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Ok I see what you mean I think. Are you concerned that the products are just sitting there not doing anything?
Yes, I was thinking that there may be a time line for the ingredients to max out.
Do you hydrate your skin before you apply a thin layer of the oil or cream?
Yep, to that too, Vit C and Hydra B 5.
That helps it spread more evenly and you find you don't need as much. Sealing in a moisturizer that contains hyaluronic acid with a light layer of oil helps the HA to hydrate the skin and keeps it from evaporating. HA in small percentages attracts and binds moisture.

The BabyQ LED device people say that it "pushes actives into the skin". I don't know about that, but it warms the skin and increases the circulation so in that way I guess it helps.I've got an old LED device that has heat and a light pulsing sensation I wonder if that would work?

Acids definitely do their job and the effect is permanent until the cells are shed. They break down tissue so that it can be remodeled later.
Is this what you mean?



How long do you think it takes for lets say, glycolic acid to do a "cycle" on your skin? 2 weeks? 4?
 

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In Rodents and Humans. Interesting. Thanks for going to the trouble. Have you noticed that some products aren't listing all the ingredients -- some just list the "active ingredients" -- strange.
 

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Yes, that's disturbing...and lazy! I know some companies outsource their product manufacture and probably the ingredients change from time to time. DS Laboratories is one that does that. The entire color and consistency of their Viterol A for Face changed without letting their customers know.

Who knows anymore what's in the stuff we buy?



 

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Yes, that's disturbing...and lazy! I know some companies outsource their product manufacture and probably the ingredients change from time to time. DS Laboratories is one that does that. The entire color and consistency of their Viterol A for Face changed without letting their customers know.

Who knows anymore what's in the stuff we buy?
The last Olay product I bought was made in China -- I sent them an e-mail because it felt so strange on my skin. No reply.
 
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