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Has anyone had any experience with hyaluronic acid products. Is it important to have a certain coumpound of it. I have been told you have to have matrixal 3000 in it and have a 50% concerntration of the H. acid. Anyone had significant results with this procuct. I am a 53 year old with loss of elasticity and WRNKLES!!
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Has anyone had any experience with hyaluronic acid products. Is it important to have a certain coumpound of it. I have been told you have to have matrixal 3000 in it and have a 50% concerntration of the H. acid. Anyone had significant results with this procuct. I am a 53 year old with loss of elasticity and WRNKLES!!
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You dont need to have the matrixal 3000 in it. I use sodium hylauronic acid as an ingredient in my DIY C serum. You sound like a great candidate for retin-a. Retinoids stimulate your skin to generate collagen and hyaluronic acid, two of the main components of your dermis, which give skin firmness and fullness. Will also work to diminish fine lines and wrinkles.
 

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sorry to interupt your post but what do you put your hyaluronic acid, is it in your Vitamin C serum thanks!?
 

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Apparently you can just use it alone directly on your skin, or I have found a product that has it mixed with matrixly 3000 and msm and alo vera. JUst starting out on that one, but i was hoping someone out there had experience with these new wonder products and could tell me their results.
 

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What Dr. Denese says about Hyaluronic Acid: "an excellen hydrating substance. Best used in serum forms. It can leave skin feeling dry if you do not add some skin-identical lipids (ceramides) to seal it in."
 

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Hi Mari . I have just started a 50% Hyaluronicacid and matrixyl 3000 gel and yes you are right ...it does feel a bit tight but i wait for about half an hour then apply a vitamin ACE oil on. What do you think...my miracle cure to the alll time wrinkle????
 

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Quote: Originally Posted by ;21154

What Dr. Denese says about Hyaluronic Acid: "an excellen hydrating substance. Best used in serum forms. It can leave skin feeling dry if you do not add some skin-identical lipids (ceramides) to seal it in."


Mari so what are you putting you Hyaluronic Acid are you using it in Vit C serum when I make my own one up, because this is what I was thinking about doing? If you can let me know best way to do this would appreciate it, think it is good way of sorting out my mums dry skin, thanks
 

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I use sodium hylauronic acid as an ingredient in my DIY C serum.
Hey Peri - what concentration of hyaluronic acid do you use in your serum? 50% seems like alot but then I've never used it myself.

I am still working on my own serum and am following your postings with great interest. May I ask a question?

Pulling together the info so far it seems that in your FIY Vitamin C serum you include - Vitamin C, Vitamin E, ferulic acid, and hyaluronic acid in a vehicle of butylene glycol and distilled water. Am I close? What final pH does this give you (if you test it, that is)? Thanks for your help.
 

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Hey Peri - what concentration of hyaluronic acid do you use in your serum? 50% seems like alot but then I've never used it myself.

I am still working on my own serum and am following your postings with great interest. May I ask a question?

Pulling together the info so far it seems that in your FIY Vitamin C serum you include - Vitamin C, Vitamin E, ferulic acid, and hyaluronic acid in a vehicle of butylene glycol and distilled water. Am I close? What final pH does this give you (if you test it, that is)? Thanks for your help.
I use 5 grams of sodium hyaluronate which equals 5% of total serum. Yes, you are close. Final PH is around 2.8
I'd send you the recipe via PM but you dont allow access.
 

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I'd send you the recipe via PM but you dont allow access.
Peri - I changed my profile. I never paid attention to all those settings when I registered on the site. So I changed my PM access, and as I did so I also noticed that I was "invisible" - so I changed that too. I would love to see your recipe. Thanks.
 

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Peri - I changed my profile. I never paid attention to all those settings when I registered on the site. So I changed my PM access, and as I did so I also noticed that I was "invisible" - so I changed that too. I would love to see your recipe. Thanks.
I sent it to your email. You still dont have PM access.
 

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netty & IluvNY -- I don't make any of my cosmetics although it may be a good idea. Here's my regime -- in the mornng I apply Cellex -C serum, wait a couple of minutes and then apply Hydra B5 Complex -- which is mainly hyaluronic acid -- this stuff just soaks into your skin but you need to use a moisturizer. I then select a moisturizer to suit my needs - If I'm not going out and want a lot of hydration I might use Silene E or Sea silk -- both from the Cellex C line. Borba is another of my favourits for day as it isn't heavy and refines the pores. At night if my splotches are getting out of hand I use Revera & Renova lip repair. Cellex-C is only used in the morning -- Hydra B5 can be used at night too.

There are other products I use from time to time -- but I generally stay with the above. Of course, sunblock is understood to be used, unless I'm using a mineral makeup. I recently purchased Eminence mineral make-up with a 60SPF.

Just find something that agrees with your skin.
 

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Mari that sounds a great routine . However I was told you must apply the hyaluronic acid first as it has to seep right down to the dermis and it is water based , then put on the oil/serums to seal in the waterbase product. As the waterbase product would not be able to be absorbed because of the serum 'seal'. Which takes me to periwinkles concoction...because water and oil cant mix ,how do you sucessfully combine the sodium hyaluronate and the serum.
Anyway love reading all you ideas. My latest dilema is ....do I put on Retin A First. then the hyaluronic acid and then the oils ? I guess that probably would make sense.
WOW ....the trouble we go to !!!
 

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Mari that sounds a great routine . However I was told you must apply the hyaluronic acid first as it has to seep right down to the dermis and it is water based , then put on the oil/serums to seal in the waterbase product. As the waterbase product would not be able to be absorbed because of the serum 'seal'. Which takes me to periwinkles concoction...because water and oil cant mix ,how do you sucessfully combine the sodium hyaluronate and the serum.
Anyway love reading all you ideas. My latest dilema is ....do I put on Retin A First. then the hyaluronic acid and then the oils ? I guess that probably would make sense.
WOW ....the trouble we go to !!!
Sodium hyaluronic acid will work fine mixed with C, Butylene Glycol, etc.
That's how Skinceuticals CE Ferulic is made. You want to keep the retin-a separate from the serum. Use the retin-a at night. Newer research is suggesting to not even apply any type of moisturizer over it as this may interfere with the wonders of retin-a. Works for me. Use a vitamin c serum underneath a photostable sunscreen in the morning.
 

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Sodium hyaluronic acid will work fine mixed with C, Butylene Glycol, etc.
That's how Skinceuticals CE Ferulic is made. You want to keep the retin-a separate from the serum. Use the retin-a at night. Newer research is suggesting to not even apply any type of moisturizer over it as this may interfere with the wonders of retin-a. Works for me. Use a vitamin c serum underneath a photostable sunscreen in the morning.
When I bought the Cellex-C products at their boutique I was told Cellex-C first (the stuff is just like water -- but it makes your skin tingle). It was suggested to only use the C product in the morning and any retin-a at night -- I suppose they were thinking of skin sensitivity? I just follow directions given by the manufacturer - in case there's a reaction.
 

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I too use a Vitamin C serum followed by a moisturizer during the day and Retin-A at night.

I apply the Retin-A alone before bedtime - nothing else. I figure that the Vitamin C and other things get 16 hours to do their part, and so that the Retin-A deserves 8 hours to do its best work with no risk of interference.

I am really counting on the Retin-A to reverse damage (aging-related), while the Vitamin C is more of a preventative thing, at least in my mind.

Has anyone besides me noticed that regardless of the subject of the thread, we always get back to one of two subjects - Vitamin C/Retin-A and facial exercises. That says alot (to me at least) about where the best efforts are being made and results seen in the fight against aging. Hooray!
 

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Has anyone besides me noticed that regardless of the subject of the thread, we always get back to one of two subjects - Vitamin C/Retin-A and facial exercises. That says alot (to me at least) about where the best efforts are being made and results seen in the fight against aging. Hooray!
....and high protection UVA/UVB sunblock!! You Canuks can get La Roche-Posay and Avene - lucky dogs!!!



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