i want to appear biracial

looking biracial/mixed doesn't depend only on skin color and tone
features and other stuff also play a big factor

I also think the lighter you want to get , the more chances you have of looking bleached specially if you use harsh products
there is a huge difference between a naturally extremely pale person and a person that achieved the paleness through bleaching
the last one lacks undertones which is why they end up looking off and greyish
example

a naturally mixed light skinned person




a black person that bleached/lighten their skin to an extreme


they don't look mixed just black with an odd coloring


it's not impossible to lighten up a lot but it takes a lot of time and patient and one product won't achieve that look alone
it's a combo of skin building, peels, exfoliation, supplements and using natural products
and again even with the pale tone your features won't change so it's still possible for you to not look mixed when it's all said and done

tartryer said:

I've seen a lot of biracial people with kinky hair, thick lips and wider noses( afro features). A lighter skin tone is a huge part of 'looking biracial', even though you don't have to have lighter skin to be biracial . All of the pictures that brownies19 posted could be biracial black women. At sight alone, its hard to say those first two women are even biracial( Afro-black mixed with <???> ). The combinations of features that Afro people have when mixed with lighter skinned races are endless.

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guess we will have to agreee to disagree on that
the last women I posted imo don't look mixed at all and couldn't pass as such specially with the awful gray bleached skin tone
of course mixed people come with an array of features but they will still have a thing or two about them that gives away their admixture, and if not than they don't look mixed which is also totally possible some mixed people don't look mixed at all just black
but what op wants to look mixed so that's besides the point
my point is overall mixed people don't just look like black people with lighter skin tones there is more to it



another thing I noticed is that people can perceive others as "looking mixed" even with darker skin tones so skin tone isn't all that matters
I talked with several members in here that achieved amazing natural results (going from very dark to very light) and the ones that "look" mixed are the ones that even when they were dark had people questioning or wondering their ethnicity
so again features matter and if people aren't questioning op ethnicity or wonder if she is mixed with her current skin tone than they prob won't wonder after when she lightens her skin
again changing skin tone won't change features I'm just letting her know so she will be realistic with her goals

tartryer said:

I guess it really depends on an individual view on what "mixed" looks like. For me, the mention of 'passing' as a mixed person is something I have never heard of. I have both mixed race people (black/ white) and lighter skinned black people in my immediate family. The non-mixed lighter skinned people are sometimes asked if they are mixed. Eyes, nose, lips and bone structure shapes don't matter as much because its expected that mixed people can come in all degrees, just like a black person. The main thing that separates black people from mixed(black) people is their lighter skin tone. But that could just be something I've always noticed throughout the US. Maybe the perception is different in certain parts of the country and its likely very different outside the US.

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I agree with you on the fact that the main thing that separates a mixed person from a black one is light skin but again that's not all that matters
and it's ironic that you come from the us because if anything I hear african americans complaining all the time of not liking when people think light skin= Mixed person

the op didn't say she wanted to look or appear light skinned she purposely said "biracial"
and these are the examples she used



its clear she is going for a certain "look"

and that look isn't all about skin tone
all of these women above even with darker skin they still wouldn't appear unambiguous black because their features (not only their skin) give away their admixture
I'm saying what I'm saying because some people are under the illusion even on an unconscious level that changing their skin tone will somehow change their features and erase what makes them appear black, and that's not the case
that's why some people get disappointed when they reach their initial goal and want to get lighter and lighter, once they reach their initial goal and realize that their features didn't change they think getting even lighter will finally make them look like the vision they had in their head of what they want to look like aka looking mixed
it doesn't happen always like that obvs but it still happens fairly often

I don't want to come across as judgmental I think people can do whatever they want
but lighten your skin with the main purpose of wanting to appear biracial is only setting yourself up for disappointment

Phenotype plays a huge part.
Hair texture
Complexion
Features (nose, eyes, lips, forehead - lightskins and big foreheads anyone? Lol).
as an example, Many (not all!!) non-mixed West Africans have flat bridges and more bollous nose tips….also some Asians ie. Filipinos). East Africans would have an easier time passing as biracial/Arab if they lighten due to their phenotype.

Facial structure (cheekbone and eyes structure - ie. That’s how you often tell apart white/black mixed from Asian/black mixed)

and all these things may not be present for mixed people. There are mixed people with 4c hair and it’s still CLEAR they’re mixed. Mixed people with dark skin, clear they’re mixed. Hell darker skinned and kinky hair - still clear they’re probably mixed somewhat. Those 2 black women (obv not mixed) are VERRYYY obviously not mixed. Most mixed women regardless of complexion or hair have fine features.If you don’t get mistaken for mixed when you’re dark, you won’t get mistaken for one when you’re lighter. That’s just it.
If you’re OBVIOUSLY black but light skin then if its natural light skin - your lips won’t be dark, they will be pink and your skin uniform with a natural glow.

I won’t accuse those 2 blk women of bleaching but it sure does NOT look natural to me.

think about your features when thinking about your skin tone. If you go too light according to your features it’s obvious you’ve bleached. These small phenotypes add up to give people conclusions of where you are from….unless they just haven’t been exposed to people like you before.

BiegeCaramel said:

Phenotype plays a huge part.
Hair texture
Complexion
Features (nose, eyes, lips, forehead - lightskins and big foreheads anyone? Lol).
as an example, Many (not all!!) non-mixed West Africans have flat bridges and more bollous nose tips….also some Asians ie. Filipinos). East Africans would have an easier time passing as biracial/Arab if they lighten due to their phenotype.

Facial structure (cheekbone and eyes structure - ie. That’s how you often tell apart white/black mixed from Asian/black mixed)

and all these things may not be present for mixed people. There are mixed people with 4c hair and it’s still CLEAR they’re mixed. Mixed people with dark skin, clear they’re mixed. Hell darker skinned and kinky hair - still clear they’re probably mixed somewhat. Those 2 black women (obv not mixed) are VERRYYY obviously not mixed. Most mixed women regardless of complexion or hair have fine features.If you don’t get mistaken for mixed when you’re dark, you won’t get mistaken for one when you’re lighter. That’s just it.
If you’re OBVIOUSLY black but light skin then if its natural light skin - your lips won’t be dark, they will be pink and your skin uniform with a natural glow.

I won’t accuse those 2 blk women of bleaching but it sure does NOT look natural to me.

think about your features when thinking about your skin tone. If you go too light according to your features it’s obvious you’ve bleached. These small phenotypes add up to give people conclusions of where you are from….unless they just haven’t been exposed to people like you before.

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couldn't have said it better
and for some reason on the internet we have this trend of some black people getting offended if you pinpoint typical black features
they go on this passionate speech about how black people come with an array of features, skin tones, eye colors , hair texture so you can't really define a "typical look" to us
it's true we come with diff features but it's also undeniable that most of us have typically kinky hair , brown to dark skin, "flat bridges and more bollous nose tips" etc,
of course some don't follow the norm but it's average for a reason because a lot of people have it

also my argument is "if there isn't any typical black feature than how come you look at a person and even putting skin tone aside you can more or less accurately guess if they are black or not "


I also heard a similar a advice to yours in here, it was something like
"if you have big features you should avoid trying to go too light or it will look off"
some were very offended by this statement but I low key agree specially after seeing the results of some members in here t
the really natural good extreme results (like people going from very dark to extremely light) were people with smaller features that even they were dark other people point it out aka accusing them of being mixed with something

brownies19 said:

couldn't have said it better
and for some reason on the internet we have this trend of some black people getting offended if you pinpoint typical black features
they go on this passionate speech about how black people come with an array of features, skin tones, eye colors , hair texture so you can't really define a "typical look" to us
it's true we come with diff features but it's also undeniable that most of us have typically kinky hair , brown to dark skin, "flat bridges and more bollous nose tips" etc,
of course some don't follow the norm but it's average for a reason because a lot of people have it

also my argument is "if there isn't any typical black feature than how come you look at a person and even putting skin tone aside you can more or less accurately guess if they are black or not "


I also heard a similar a advice to yours in here, it was something like
"if you have big features you should avoid trying to go too light or it will look off"
some were very offended by this statement but I low key agree specially after seeing the results of some members in here t
the really natural good extreme results (like people going from very dark to extremely light) were people with smaller features that even they were dark other people point it out aka accusing them of being mixed with something

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Exactly. People who would have gotten offended are probably those who WISH it wasn’t true. Unfortunately we don’t dictate what is true, we simply observe it.
Its like how do we differentiate East Asian from white? When the skin is white and hair is straight.
How do we differentiate west African from East African when they skin tone may be the same and some people from both regions with type 4 hair
How do we differentiate Southeast Asian from East African when skin and hair texture can also be the same (wavy or loose curly hair)
How do we differentiate blasians from mulatos (we still use this term in mainland Europe).
Black people come in an array, yes. But your features will match your skin naturally.

At my lightest I get mistaken for half black half Arab, half Southeast Asian, half North African or fully East African, or maybe my granddaddy white, this was even though my skin was lighter than a white/black biracial friend of mine and our hair texture is the same. Our phenotypes were different so it was clear I was not white/black biracial.

Having broad nose and dark pink lips is perfectly beautiful, I have a relatively “broad” nose too, no shame to it - at the same time it doesn’t match NC30 at all and I’m trying to look as natural as possible so there’s limits.

Again, black people have that bleach with very obviously stereotypical black phenotype (West African features) can be (maybe) mistaken for mixed by some but our black people will know lol.

BiegeCaramel said:

Exactly. People who would have gotten offended are probably those who WISH it wasn’t true. Unfortunately we don’t dictate what is true, we simply observe it.
Its like how do we differentiate East Asian from white? When the skin is white and hair is straight.
How do we differentiate west African from East African when they skin tone may be the same and some people from both regions with type 4 hair
How do we differentiate Southeast Asian from East African when skin and hair texture can also be the same (wavy or loose curly hair)
How do we differentiate blasians from mulatos (we still use this term in mainland Europe).
Black people come in an array, yes. But your features will match your skin naturally.

At my lightest I get mistaken for half black half Arab, half Southeast Asian, half North African or fully East African, or maybe my granddaddy white, this was even though my skin was lighter than a white/black biracial friend of mine and our hair texture is the same. Our phenotypes were different so it was clear I was not white/black biracial.

Having broad nose and dark pink lips is perfectly beautiful, I have a relatively “broad” nose too, no shame to it - at the same time it doesn’t match NC30 at all and I’m trying to look as natural as possible so there’s limits.

Again, black people have that bleach with very obviously stereotypical black phenotype (West African features) can be (maybe) mistaken for mixed by some but our black people will know lol.

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mmm exactly
for me taking offense to pointing out certain features as typically black means that the person deep down view them as ugly or inferior

and in my opinion no feature in particular makes someone unattractive or attractive
what makes someone beautiful is how harmonious and symmetric their face is and how the face looks with all the features put together
so having certain eye color , or skin tone doesn't automatically make someone attractive or unattractive the same for having kinky hair or big nose
for me phenotype is just a foundation, a lot of variations can happen based on it which is why it doesn't make sense to crown one phenotype as attractive or unattractive
it varies from person to person
most people are average and a minority are below average or above it and an even smaller minority is the extreme of the spectrum: extremely attractive or extremely unattractive (according to society standard)
my point is no feature or phenotype should be seen as good or bad

me personally that's one of the reasons I was so conservative with my skin lightening at first
my initial shade is lupita and even back than I had some people not believing I was 100% black and questioning my ethnicity and background
in general I have typical black features but the combo of a small head/face and very small eyes throws people off
when I'm at a very low weight my face looks even smaller and my little niece even accuses me of "looking Chinese "
so my problem with lightening my skin is that I didn't want to stop looking fully black
I wanted to look black but with a lighter skin tone not mixed with anything but I realize with my features it's a bit inevitable

it's ironic because among my ethnicity in africa my features aren't that rare, so no one questions or doubt when I say I'm 100% black
another thing I notice is that back home I' considered pretty but in a normal meh type of way
people don't get out of their way to compliment me and they don't think I'm anything special
in fact I was made fun of for having a small head
but when I'm in Europe or America the perception is completely diff, I'm considered a lot more attractive and it isn't only with me a lot of women from my home country in africa that are considered "gorgeous" internationally , inside the country they are just seen as okaysh
it goes to show that there is no point of attributing any value to any particular feature because it's all very relative and subjective based on the value a particular society places on it

brownies19 said:

looking biracial/mixed doesn't depend only on skin color and tone
features and other stuff also play a big factor

I also think the lighter you want to get , the more chances you have of looking bleached specially if you use harsh products
there is a huge difference between a naturally extremely pale person and a person that achieved the paleness through bleaching
the last one lacks undertones which is why they end up looking off and greyish
example

a naturally mixed light skinned person
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a black person that bleached/lighten their skin to an extreme
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they don't look mixed just black with an odd coloring


it's not impossible to lighten up a lot but it takes a lot of time and patient and one product won't achieve that look alone
it's a combo of skin building, peels, exfoliation, supplements and using natural products
and again even with the pale tone your features won't change so it's still possible for you to not look mixed when it's all said and done

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I second this.
Looking biracial is more than a skintone. It's a whole pack of features.
On the subconscious level, we know what a biracial woman looks like.

Usualy, when you see a black woman who lightened her skin, you think spontaneously: Oh her bleaching game is top notch. You are not fooled.

That said, even though it's not possible to change one's race, it's still possible to get something approaching it.

Using inside out lighteners is the way. Because not only iit changes the skin tone but also the undertone.

When i was using glutathione (and dietary supplements in general) back in the days, it lightened my skin and undertone. It also softened considerably my features. Plus i was wearing a curly lace wig. Many people thought i was caribbean. I had several guys hitting on me in the streets and spoke to me in creole and they were surprised ( and disappointed lol) when i told them i was african and i don't speak creole.

This kind of things never happened to me when i was using creams/topicals. Instead, i had people just complimenting me for my good cream.

So, for the OP asking the questions, inside out ighteners might be your best option if you want to look biracial. Consider working on your whole appearance (hair for example) as well if you want to attain as much as possible your goal.