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I have used a dermaroller made by Dr. Roller. It is not expensive, it is a good way to get your actives to penetrate your skin better and, with using longer needles (1.5mm) - it is a good way to generate collagen and skin remodeling.
Most rollers can be bought for around $100 or less. The Dr. Roller brand is a good one because it has cross-linked patterns allowing for more coverage while rolling. If you want to use it for stretch marks, buy the 1.5mm.
It can be a little painful. Some ppl are able to go with out a numbing cream, but I highly recommend it. The Elma brand is best.
The results I have seen and read about on other forums have been great for the rollers. Read the threads on Essential Day Spa in the DIY/Skin care tools thread.
The research done by the 'inventor/s' of the rollers suggests to use a Vit A cream for at least 6 weeks before starting the rolling (I use Retin A, but they say you can use a retinyl paltimate) and to also use a Vit C product.
Personally, I have had excellant results prior to using the roller with Skin Biology's Copper Peptides and am using their CPs instead of the Vit C for my rolling. I have been a retinoid user for years, so I had that covered already.
It can hurt a bit, but the results are really something to see! Much better than doing lazers or aggressive peels. And without the damage from those either.
For more info - google dermarollers or CIT (collegen induction therapy) or Percutaneous Collagen Induction.
Most rollers can be bought for around $100 or less. The Dr. Roller brand is a good one because it has cross-linked patterns allowing for more coverage while rolling. If you want to use it for stretch marks, buy the 1.5mm.
It can be a little painful. Some ppl are able to go with out a numbing cream, but I highly recommend it. The Elma brand is best.
The results I have seen and read about on other forums have been great for the rollers. Read the threads on Essential Day Spa in the DIY/Skin care tools thread.
The research done by the 'inventor/s' of the rollers suggests to use a Vit A cream for at least 6 weeks before starting the rolling (I use Retin A, but they say you can use a retinyl paltimate) and to also use a Vit C product.
Personally, I have had excellant results prior to using the roller with Skin Biology's Copper Peptides and am using their CPs instead of the Vit C for my rolling. I have been a retinoid user for years, so I had that covered already.
It can hurt a bit, but the results are really something to see! Much better than doing lazers or aggressive peels. And without the damage from those either.
For more info - google dermarollers or CIT (collegen induction therapy) or Percutaneous Collagen Induction.
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Wow this looks really interesting. Do you know anyone who has tried this for old stretch marks?
hmm its not gonna give you scars? Wont it scratch your skin?
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i had just done my derma roller 7 hours ago
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this was my first treatment and i was really scare at first ..
i had a car accident when i was young and the scar just look deep and depressed ..
therefore i went for a surgery and done my Z plasty (cut the scar and stitch it back again )
there is improvement but the scar is still visible ..somehow the scar is just on my right cheek[damn obvious]
so today i went for the dermarolling ..
1st -they wash my face with a very gentle soap
2nd- applying a kinda strong numbing cream and let me rest for almost AN HOUR
3rd- they gave me painkiller..and some muscle relaxing medicine
4th-inject some numbing injection [this is when the pain comes..just relax and breath ..and the pain will gone ]*injection will only give it to those that do a small area of your skin ..if it is whole face then this precess will just be ignored ..
5th- start rolling [no pain at all during the process ..u will only feel something rolling on your skin but NO PAIN ]
There will be some blood out from your skin but you wont actually feel it ...just wipe off with some clean cotton
6th-lastly they will give some vit C ...and some oxygen gas on your skin [no pain at all..feel like laughing when they give the oxygen gas on my face LOL]
after the treatment u should use some really good Vit C product (exmple:C SCAPE SERUM) ..dun ever apply vit E , it will damage your skin
Avoid sunlight and GOOD LUCK !!
it is really worth it and the pain is lesses than lazer!!
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this was my first treatment and i was really scare at first ..
i had a car accident when i was young and the scar just look deep and depressed ..
therefore i went for a surgery and done my Z plasty (cut the scar and stitch it back again )
there is improvement but the scar is still visible ..somehow the scar is just on my right cheek[damn obvious]
so today i went for the dermarolling ..
1st -they wash my face with a very gentle soap
2nd- applying a kinda strong numbing cream and let me rest for almost AN HOUR
3rd- they gave me painkiller..and some muscle relaxing medicine
4th-inject some numbing injection [this is when the pain comes..just relax and breath ..and the pain will gone ]*injection will only give it to those that do a small area of your skin ..if it is whole face then this precess will just be ignored ..
5th- start rolling [no pain at all during the process ..u will only feel something rolling on your skin but NO PAIN ]
There will be some blood out from your skin but you wont actually feel it ...just wipe off with some clean cotton
6th-lastly they will give some vit C ...and some oxygen gas on your skin [no pain at all..feel like laughing when they give the oxygen gas on my face LOL]
after the treatment u should use some really good Vit C product (exmple:C SCAPE SERUM) ..dun ever apply vit E , it will damage your skin
Avoid sunlight and GOOD LUCK !!
it is really worth it and the pain is lesses than lazer!!
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Hi erynn,
a few questions for you, if you don't mind....Was the roller used 1.0mm or higher ? Was this performed by a Dermatologist or an aesthetician ? And how much did they charge ?
Oh, and how many days do you feel one must give themselves before you feel comfortable going back to work ?
I am currently self rolling with an .5 mm roller every 7 days or so. It has been 4 times so far and I know it will be another 10 months or so before I see the results.
thank you....
a few questions for you, if you don't mind....Was the roller used 1.0mm or higher ? Was this performed by a Dermatologist or an aesthetician ? And how much did they charge ?
Oh, and how many days do you feel one must give themselves before you feel comfortable going back to work ?
I am currently self rolling with an .5 mm roller every 7 days or so. It has been 4 times so far and I know it will be another 10 months or so before I see the results.
thank you....
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Micro-needling is done with a roller that is filled with numerous tiny needles that penetrate the skin by 1mm. This small amount can effectively reduce the appearance of acne scars and wrinkles without any bruising or swelling to worry about afterwards.
Micro-needling can be safely repeated every couple of months until you achieve the desired results.
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I believe it's normally called a "DermaRoller".
I know a bodybuilder that used a dermaroller to remove stretch marks. He said after a few months the marks started to fade. Initially he had no results because the needles were too shallow. He bought another roller with longer needles & then the results started to come. I believe 1mm is too shallow for stretchmarks on the body, but it should work well on the face & neck.
Keep in mind, the results are very slow, but they come eventually (it takes months).
There is a hong kong based company that sells dermarollers for around $10 + shipping.
If you use a roller twice a week it will wear out in a few months (the needles apparently don't stay sharp forever). Occasionally the device must be replaced.
Some people use numbing creme (if they use the dermaroller on their face / neck). I hear it's not too bad on the body (not as painful).
I know a bodybuilder that used a dermaroller to remove stretch marks. He said after a few months the marks started to fade. Initially he had no results because the needles were too shallow. He bought another roller with longer needles & then the results started to come. I believe 1mm is too shallow for stretchmarks on the body, but it should work well on the face & neck.
Keep in mind, the results are very slow, but they come eventually (it takes months).
There is a hong kong based company that sells dermarollers for around $10 + shipping.
If you use a roller twice a week it will wear out in a few months (the needles apparently don't stay sharp forever). Occasionally the device must be replaced.
Some people use numbing creme (if they use the dermaroller on their face / neck). I hear it's not too bad on the body (not as painful).
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It's somewhere on Ebay... I'm sorry but I forgot the name.
Just search for dermaroller, derma roller, microneedle, or micro needle on ebay.
Here's an example:
I used the search term "Derma Roller" and I found this:
$8.99 + shipping for a 1.5mm needle.
Derma Microneedle Roller Skin Needle Roller 1.5mm Scars - eBay (item 170544147036 end time Sep-30-10 03:08:04 PDT)
Here's an image of the dermaroller they are selling:
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1mm might be sufficient for the face, but I think you may need at least 1.5mm for the body (e.g. to get deep enough to stimulate collagen repair sufficient to help with stretchmarks).
I don't know which company is best to buy from, as I have not got around to buying a dermaroller myself yet. But I will soon...
Good luck.
Just search for dermaroller, derma roller, microneedle, or micro needle on ebay.
Here's an example:
I used the search term "Derma Roller" and I found this:
$8.99 + shipping for a 1.5mm needle.
Derma Microneedle Roller Skin Needle Roller 1.5mm Scars - eBay (item 170544147036 end time Sep-30-10 03:08:04 PDT)
Here's an image of the dermaroller they are selling:
1mm might be sufficient for the face, but I think you may need at least 1.5mm for the body (e.g. to get deep enough to stimulate collagen repair sufficient to help with stretchmarks).
I don't know which company is best to buy from, as I have not got around to buying a dermaroller myself yet. But I will soon...
Good luck.
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I've been reading folk warning to only buy authentic Dr Roller DermaRollers, because they say the others aren't sterile. I'm not sure that I follow that argument - because I've got a Dr Roller, and in its how-to-use guidelines it tells you to run it under hot water before use, and again after you use it. I assume that that would be all you would need to do for the other brands, as well?
I used the DermaRoller on my face, once, and nearly passed out with the pain. I turned scarlet... and it took a couple of days to get back to normal. I could barely do the four directions rolling, and think I only managed up and down, and left to right. I missed out the diagonals.
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I used the DermaRoller on my face, once, and nearly passed out with the pain. I turned scarlet... and it took a couple of days to get back to normal. I could barely do the four directions rolling, and think I only managed up and down, and left to right. I missed out the diagonals.
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I know a guy used a Dermaroller like the one above with no problem, but it was on his body, not his face. his only complaint was that the needles were getting dull after a few months and he had to replace it. (he was doing 2x sessions per week).
He also commented that the 1mm needles were too short for his body (he didn't get results until he used slightly longer needles than that).
I have seen that some people use numbing creme to tone down the pain of the dermaroller.
He also commented that the 1mm needles were too short for his body (he didn't get results until he used slightly longer needles than that).
I have seen that some people use numbing creme to tone down the pain of the dermaroller.
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its amazing if it cannt reduce stretch marks. i was under the impression nothing can improve them as its more of an elastin issue? is that right?
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I ended up using mine for cellulite on my thighs. I was doing it every second day. It didn't make any difference (I applied the cellulite cream afterwards) - and the dermaroller went dull quite quickly. Plus it took me such a long long long time to do all four directions. I don't recommend it.
Yes, I think I would need the numbing cream if I were to again do it on my face. Good idea. I'm not planning to for quite a while - I'm focusing on reducing my scarring, and am doing a course of IPL for my facial redness.
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Yes, I think I would need the numbing cream if I were to again do it on my face. Good idea. I'm not planning to for quite a while - I'm focusing on reducing my scarring, and am doing a course of IPL for my facial redness.
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neukoln: were you using an expensive or cheap roller (the one that went dull).
I'm just wondering if the expensive ones last longer than the cheap ones.
I'm just wondering if the expensive ones last longer than the cheap ones.
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It was a genuine Dr Roller - complete with the certificate and the sealed plastic bubble packaging. I think the reason it went dull so quickly is because thighs are large areas. I'm not fat (UK size 12... I'm 5'10"... so a BMI of 19) but one thigh once is, I'm guessing, 6 times area of your face. So, double that for two thighs. But I noticed a definite increase in dullness within a couple of weeks. First I thought that my pain tolerance was improving... but alas then I realised that it was getting duller.
I don't think it was badly made or poor quality. I just think that despite what they say you can't really use it for cellulite because a roller will not last long enough for it to have an effect.
I just did the Maths for the above. If normal use for a dermaroller on the face is twice a week, then that's 8 times a month. By using it every second day on both thighs I was using it the equivalent to 180 times a month (12 x 15). That's 22 times greater frequency. So, I'd feel quite comfortable guessing that the dermaroller would have last at least a year if I'd used it twice a week only on my face.
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I don't think it was badly made or poor quality. I just think that despite what they say you can't really use it for cellulite because a roller will not last long enough for it to have an effect.
I just did the Maths for the above. If normal use for a dermaroller on the face is twice a week, then that's 8 times a month. By using it every second day on both thighs I was using it the equivalent to 180 times a month (12 x 15). That's 22 times greater frequency. So, I'd feel quite comfortable guessing that the dermaroller would have last at least a year if I'd used it twice a week only on my face.
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It seems dermarollers (micro-needling devices) just go dull after a while regardless of brand.
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Hi , very sorry for not replying u for so long. She was an aesthetician. She used 1.5 mm on me. They actually charged around 1000+++. (forgotten how much she charged me at the first place ) .THe first and second time of the treatment will take 1 week plus ( around 9 days) for me to go to work .the third and fouth time takes me more than 2 weeks , this is because she actually used extra needles to poke my skin . I dunno wat this call but it seriously give a gud results. I will recommend u to find a specialist to do for you. The results will be better and more improvement u will see .
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