I haven't used water to cleanse as I'm following the Sophyto program. The acidic balance is changed when using regular tap water w/ chorine in the water. fltered water is ok, but the products work on
their own. So far I am very happy with them.
I haven't tried sophyto either, but am interested in it. I have been using Yonka and like that. It has a good rating on the skin deep database if you are interested in low chemicals. You can check tonnes of products on their site.
I have a couple of sophyto samples I am going to try tonight, see if I like them.