[hellokitty]

is any one know which sun cream is better?

 

[prclnbeauty]

Neutrogena has a great suncare line if you're looking for something OTC.

 

[fawnie]

Hello hellokitty!
Better for what? Is your skin oily, dry, prone to acne? Do you want a physical or chemical or hybrid? Does it have to be waterproof?

I have read studies that you want to look for a photostable formula with either Mexoryl or Tinosorb to stabilize the sunblock ingredients. Avene Emulsion SPF 50+ is one I like since it meets that requirement and isn't whitish or greasy.

Hope that helps in some way.

 

[periwinkle]

Ditto what Fawnie said. I buy my sunscreen with both mexoryls on ebay for pretty cheap.

 

[periwinkle]

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[Mari]

Interesting and extensive post, periwinkle. I have trouble with sunscreen because I find many are sticky or too heavy; all the ones I've tried have a chemical odour. I wish there was one that was a light gel formula with no scent.

 

[fawnie]

Most excellent reference from that site! (some interesting drama going on there too!) What sunscreen do you yourself like?

I recently got my hands on some Avene Emulsion SPF50+ (orange tube) from Greece and love it, but used Devita SPF30 before and like it as a moisturizer/sunscreen with zinc oxide. I wouldn't trust it for working outside all day though.

 

[Mari]

Would you believe I don't have a sunscreen. I rely on SPF being in a cosmetic or moisturizer. I recently bought some mineral makeup with SPF 60 == but I know I should be wearing a sunscreen.

 

[periwinkle]

My last 2 tubes of sunscreen where Ombrelle (Loreal) SPF 60 with mexoryl SX
and Garnier Ambre Solaire sensitive protection milk. SPF 50 mexoryl SX and XL

What a joke the FDA is for not approving the great sunscreens that are used in Europe.
With the fairly recent exception of mexoryl SX. I believe they are working on it but dont hold your breath,

 

[fawnie]

Would you believe I don't have a sunscreen. I rely on SPF being in a cosmetic or moisturizer. I recently bought some mineral makeup with SPF 60 == but I know I should be wearing a sunscreen.

Uh OH!!! I don't think you can ever get too much sun protection! The SPF in mineral makeup is usually titanium or zinc and isn't all that much protection. Plus you probably put on a modest amount of it, not the 1/4 tsp recommended, am I right?

There are sunblocks that are really cosmetically elegant and make a nice primer for your mineral makeup: Avene Emulsion SPF50+ is beautifully silky and not chalky at all. Not greasy either. Or any of the ones Peri reviewed. Just perfect in every way. Convinced yet?

 

[Mari]

Uh OH!!! I don't think you can ever get too much sun protection! The SPF in mineral makeup is usually titanium or zinc and isn't all that much protection. Plus you probably put on a modest amount of it, not the 1/4 tsp recommended, am I right?

There are sunblocks that are really cosmetically elegant and make a nice primer for your mineral makeup: Avene Emulsion SPF50+ is beautifully silky and not chalky at all. Not greasy either. Or any of the ones Peri reviewed. Just perfect in every way. Convinced yet?

I've never used Avene cosmetics -- if you say I should give it a try -- your word is good enough for me.

I caused a lot of problems by not using sunscreen --

 

[fawnie]

Avene is a great French brand.
SkinCareCentral has it,Skincare Central--European and High UVA Sunscreens and Sunblocks -- BEST PRICES ANYWHERE!

If you live in Canada you might be able to find it in the stores there!!

Hope this works for you!!! It is so nice that I don't mind using it every day, but the ones Peri rec are great too, and might be more widely available.

 

[IluvNY]

How about La Rocha Posay I really like there stuff!

 

[Mari]

Avene is a great French brand.
SkinCareCentral has it,Skincare Central--European and High UVA Sunscreens and Sunblocks -- BEST PRICES ANYWHERE!

If you live in Canada you might be able to find it in the stores there!!

Hope this works for you!!! It is so nice that I don't mind using it every day, but the ones Peri rec are great too, and might be more widely available.

Ok I'll buy some just as long as they're not greasy and have that off odour. Did you know that sunscreen is not culmative, that is, if you put sunscreen on first with SPF 15, then a moisturizer or makeup with SPF 15 you only have protection of SPF 15? My pharmacist cousin enlightened me.

 

[fawnie]

Good info Mari! I haven't noticed an off odor with Avene. It's pretty benign as far as I'm concerned.

NY, Yes LRP has some good products! But look for the ingredients Mexoryl and Tinosorb to be sure you are getting the best sun protection. Peri's post in this thread goes into a lot of detail about what to look for in a sunblock.

 

[periwinkle]

How about La Rocha Posay I really like there stuff!

La Roche Possay Fluid Extreme SPF50 (PPD28 mexoryl xs and xl) is one of the best you can buy.

 

[IluvNY]

thanks perry gonna

 

[fawnie]

I came across info saying that with the Japanese and Euro sunscreens, an oil-cleanser or makeup remover has to be used first before the usual cleansing method to remove it. I know that doing this has helped to eliminate breakouts and blackheads from these high-powered sunscreens. Has anyone else found this too?

What I use is either DHC Deep Cleansing Oil or Fancl Cleansing Oil, then my usual Dr Hauschka Cleansing Cream. I tried regular olive oil and various other oils instead of the specific "Cleansing Oil", but it didn't work because it didn't have emulsifiers to help break up the oil/sunscreen sludge.

 

[Mari]

I came across info saying that with the Japanese and Euro sunscreens, an oil-cleanser or makeup remover has to be used first before the usual cleansing method to remove it. I know that doing this has helped to eliminate breakouts and blackheads from these high-powered sunscreens. Has anyone else found this too?

What I use is either DHC Deep Cleansing Oil or Fancl Cleansing Oil, then my usual Dr Hauschka Cleansing Cream. I tried regular olive oil and various other oils instead of the specific "Cleansing Oil", but it didn't work because it didn't have emulsifiers to help break up the oil/sunscreen sludge.

I've used Skinn Cosmetics Oilive & Enzyme Balm Cleanser, do you think that would work - or be strong enough. Its main ingredients are olive butter, orange oil and some sort of enzyme that is supposed to eat up the grime. It's gentle enough to use to take of eye makeup. What about old fashioned cold creams?

 

[pumi]

Thanks for sharing these information, Periwinkle. Very interesting indeed as I didn't know what to look for in a sunscreen. I am currently using a herbal sunscreen which contains Parsol 1789. Do you think it's good for me to continue using it?
Thanks.