[Bella2009]

I would like to purchase a vit c serum. I would love to be able to make one but am not at the point in my life right now (too much going on in all areas and that is probably why I am obsessing over my skin right now

). I have seen cellex c but not sure if there are others that are effective. Also it worth paying $100 for - that many results?

Also i found a site (vitacost) that has cellex c for $89. Would you order from them or would you order from another site?

thanks!

 

[clearskinnurse]

save your money, the Quinta Peptides work faster and better!

 

[periwinkle]

I would like to purchase a vit c serum. I would love to be able to make one but am not at the point in my life right now (too much going on in all areas and that is probably why I am obsessing over my skin right now

). I have seen cellex c but not sure if there are others that are effective. Also it worth paying $100 for - that many results?

Also i found a site (vitacost) that has cellex c for $89. Would you order from them or would you order from another site?

thanks!

I vote for making your own and saving a bunch of $$$$$ It's not that hard and it's actually quite fun. Yes Vitacost is a good site to order from. I've ordered many times with excellent results. Skinceuticals CE Ferulic is actually a better product do to the Ferulic acid which gives it a SPF rating of 8 which is fantastic in such a product. Especially considering it stays on the skin and does not wash off.

 

[periwinkle]

save your money, the Quinta Peptides work faster and better!

What is a Quinta Peptide? Any references as to why it is better?

 

[skippy]

I vote for making your own and saving a bunch of $$$$$ It's not that hard and it's actually quite fun. Yes Vitacost is a good site to order from. I've ordered many times with excellent results. Skinceuticals CE Ferulic is actually a better product do to the Ferulic acid which gives it a SPF rating of 8 which is fantastic in such a product. Especially considering it stays on the skin and does not wash off.

Would you mind to tell me how to make my own Vit C serum?
Thanks in advance.

 

[periwinkle]

Would you mind to tell me how to make my own Vit C serum?
Thanks in advance.

Have you seen this one?

http://www.skincaretalk.com/anti-agi...lic-serum.html

 

[periwinkle]

This is a better DIY formula IMO.

DIY Skin Care Recipes: l-ascorbic acid +E+Ferulic

 

[fawnie]

This is a better DIY formula IMO.

DIY Skin Care Recipes: l-ascorbic acid +E+Ferulic

That one DOES look good Baby! Maybe I will try that one too when I use up what I already have. Thnx!

 

[clearskinnurse]

What is a Quinta Peptide? Any references as to why it is better?

Peptides are amino acid (proteins) that "teach" your skin not to age. They get absorbed and start teaching your skin not to age in the dermal level. You should read up on it. Google it. There is one skincare care line that has it in the strongest concentration. It is called Pursue Skin Care.

Vit C is just an anti-oxident. And if it's not found in a soluble state it will not even get absorbed by your skin. Most Vit C are found in an acid form. IE. Ascorbic Acid. Acids dissipate on the surface of the skin. Waste of time and money.

 

[fawnie]

Peptides are amino acid (proteins) that "teach" your skin not to age. They get absorbed and start teaching your skin not to age in the dermal level. You should read up on it. Google it. There is one skincare care line that has it in the strongest concentration. It is called Pursue Skin Care.

Vit C is just an anti-oxident. And if it's not found in a soluble state it will not even get absorbed by your skin. Most Vit C are found in an acid form. IE. Ascorbic Acid. Acids dissipate on the surface of the skin. Waste of time and money.

Hmm. No disrespect meant for your informative post, nurse, but have you read this?
Vitamin C for wrinkles and skin aging

Peptides are relatively new on the horizon and just don't have the science behind them yet to prove that they work for treatment of anti-ageing. In some cases peptides can make the situation worse, as in copper peptides.

'The bottom line
Copper peptides are a promising skin treatment with a good safety profile. Their ability to improve the healing of various types of skin lesions is well established. It is likely that copper peptides may slow down the development of the signs of skin aging by limiting the consequences of daily wear and tear. Also, copper peptides may augment the results of the skin rejuvenation treatments based on controlled skin injury, such as laser resurfacing, dermabrasion and peels. There are also indications that copper peptides have the potential to improve wrinkles and skin texture on their own. However, more extensive and prolonged studies are required to definitively prove it. Also, it appears that copper peptides may cause rare but significant skin damage in some cases of overuse or unusual sensitivity. Further practical details of optimal selection and prdent use and using copper peptides products are discussed in Skin Rejuvenation Infopack."
(QUOTE from Smart Skin Care - Intelligent Rejuvenation Through Science)

 

[gymrat]

Hmm. No disrespect meant for your informative post, nurse, but have you read this?
Vitamin C for wrinkles and skin aging

Peptides are relatively new on the horizon and just don't have the science behind them yet to prove that they work for treatment of anti-ageing. In some cases peptides can make the situation worse, as in copper peptides.

'The bottom line
Copper peptides are a promising skin treatment with a good safety profile. Their ability to improve the healing of various types of skin lesions is well established. It is likely that copper peptides may slow down the development of the signs of skin aging by limiting the consequences of daily wear and tear. Also, copper peptides may augment the results of the skin rejuvenation treatments based on controlled skin injury, such as laser resurfacing, dermabrasion and peels. There are also indications that copper peptides have the potential to improve wrinkles and skin texture on their own. However, more extensive and prolonged studies are required to definitively prove it. Also, it appears that copper peptides may cause rare but significant skin damage in some cases of overuse or unusual sensitivity. Further practical details of optimal selection and prdent use and using copper peptides products are discussed in Skin Rejuvenation Infopack."
(QUOTE from Smart Skin Care - Intelligent Rejuvenation Through Science)

Thank you fawnie-I knew you would come through. I had major (female) Dr apts today, not in the investigating mode at the moment.

And while I am thinking about it, have you gotten the info pack?

 

[periwinkle]

I agree with what Fawnie has just said. Vitamin C serum is much more proven than copper peptides. Quinta or not.

 

[2blue]

I don't know about the wrinkles and vitamin C, the reduction of wrinkles are often very small no matter what product and really most often don't make much difference before or after three months use. One thing I know vitamin C really can do, in a cream or serum, is give you much better skin colour, and significant reduction of hyper-pigmentation if you have sun-damaged skin. If you stick to a applicaton moring and night for a year or so you will be surpriced. Still, most regard vitamin A acid as much more efficient.

I think the peptides are very interesting too. Peptides is a very wide term, and I really like the fermented seaweed (muliti purpose), the fermented lemonpeel (skin lightening, hyper pigmentation, freckles,) matrixyl (strivectin, very promising for wrinkle reduction) that nurish skin and help all kinds of skin-functions not fully explained by the biologist and chemists. These are very safe and natural pepties (broken down proteins).

 

[Mari]

I've been a Cellex-c fan for at least 3 years. It has improved my skin -- especially around the eyes. Usage is cullamative.

 

[2blue]

Mari, oh please give more details

 

[periwinkle]

I don't know about the wrinkles and vitamin C, the reduction of wrinkles are often very small no matter what product and really most often don't make much difference before or after three months use. One thing I know vitamin C really can do, in a cream or serum, is give you much better skin colour, and significant reduction of hyper-pigmentation if you have sun-damaged skin. If you stick to a applicaton moring and night for a year or so you will be surpriced. Still, most regard vitamin A acid as much more efficient.

I think the peptides are very interesting too. Peptides is a very wide term, and I really like the fermented seaweed (muliti purpose), the fermented lemonpeel (skin lightening, hyper pigmentation, freckles,) matrixyl (strivectin, very promising for wrinkle reduction) that nurish skin and help all kinds of skin-functions not fully explained by the biologist and chemists. These are very safe and natural pepties (broken down proteins).

Very true 2blue. I believe vitamin C serum is best used for prevention puposes rather than trying to mop up the wrinkles so to speak.

 

[Mari]

Very true 2blue. I believe vitamin C serum is best used for prevention puposes rather than trying to mop up the wrinkles so to speak.

You are right PW -- when I started using Cellex-C I had few wrinkles, and my skin has not aged in comparison to a relative my age (we used to look like twins); I have more stress in my life; she has gone to skin clinics; she's out in the sun a lot (golfing) but does use high SPF protection.

The only difference I can think of is my usage of Cellex-C -- and I'm sure another similiar product would produce similar results. using it daily has given me the edge. (I think.)

 

[fawnie]

Mari, have you always used a high protection sunscreen as well??? Which one? It def sounds like you're doing it right!!

 

[IluvNY]

I have to say though peptides are becoming more and more popular in products and they are interesting but there is still the worry of the side effects of these, however may be these plant peptides that are all natural are different!

Mari i noticed that Ren do a similar vit c product to the cellex c looked like same ingrendients to me too!

 

[Mari]

Mari, have you always used a high protection sunscreen as well??? Which one? It def sounds like you're doing it right!!

You know I guess I'm lucky -- I suffered right into my 20s with acne but my skin was so oily that I didn't notice any lines or wrinkles until I was in my30s. I hardly used any cosmetics because I usually had an allergic reaction. I hated sunscreens because of it felt icky and the odor made me feel ill. Then I had all these acne scars to deal with so I had dermabrasion and was told to start looking after my skin -- especially sunscreen. I didn't at first and ended up with pigmentation problems that I'm still trying to address.

I started to use a serum by Estee Lauder and bought make-up with SPF protection. Later when I heard about Cellex-C I started to use it faithfully along with the Hydra B5.

Because I think my skin is now mature - I have started a more intense regime. I still haven't found an SPF protection lotion that I can tolerate. I'm now layering, moisterizer with SPF 30 and mineral makeup with SPF 30 -- If I know I'm going to outside most of the day I wear wide brimed hats -- so I'm at an event and the only one with a hat? who cares? I also wear tops with sleeves. So the result is, I'm very pale, my skin has pigmentation problems from the sun and freckles, few or no lines around my eyes, forehead; my problem areas are the frown lines and lower marionette lines -- which sort of blend in with scars in the same area.

I have neglected my skin for long periods but have always used the Cellex C -- and I'm not saying this is the best brand it's simply something that I can purchase where I live. I also can say that I have rejuvenated my skin when I have decided that I look like crap. It takes an effort but it helps having a DD who makes rude remarks and loves to experiment with cosmetics.