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Hello everyone..

I want to get an appointment with a skin doctor. But i dont know whom should i contact. There are a lot of doctors. How can i know which one is good and which one is not..

please suggest...
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Hello everyone..

I want to get an appointment with a skin doctor. But i dont know whom should i contact. There are a lot of doctors. How can i know which one is good and which one is not..

please suggest...
Where do you live? In Canada you have to be referred by a GP -- however if you know of a good dermatologist you can ask your GP to refer to him/her. If you don't have a GP call the local hospital/clinic and explain your situation; if no doctors are available in your area go directly to the hospital out patient or emergency department. Good luck.
How crazy is it that you need to be referred by somebody to see the doctor you want / need to see. Sort of off-topic, when I had dental problems and my dentist couldn't figure it out, he told me to see a specialist. But I had to go see (and pay) a 2nd dentist to refer me to the specialist. It's like a big scam so everybody gets money except you.
That is the system in Canada! but it's free! You can go for a second or third and forth opinion without paying (I can't say really it's free, it's our taxes and boy do we pay) There are also derms that are not with the system and you get your appointment very quickly but take your $ out! NO system is perfect and everybody wants their piece of cake just like insurance companies are trying to save money by not covering all expenses. You should see the film made by Micheal More called "Sicko", after seeing this film, you will prefer our system in Canada. No wonder there are 100,000 americans (per year) moving in Canada, when you can't afford insurances, you can't afford being sick!
Very interesting Mariepop, although i don't agree with Michael Moore's methods or "facts".

Here is my question for you, and I don't mean to be disrespectful at all: Do most Canadians think that the quality of healthcare they receive is worth the higher taxes?



Very interesting Mariepop, although i don't agree with Michael Moore's methods or "facts".

Here is my question for you, and I don't mean to be disrespectful at all: Do most Canadians think that the quality of healthcare they receive is worth the higher taxes?
I hope Mariepop gives her perspective as well, but here's my two cent's worth. The Canadian system isn't perfect, but living in a small hamlet and knowing that if I become seriously ill I can be taken by helicopter to the hospital that specializes in whatever is wrong with me at no cost takes the worry out of the possibility of being ill.

My friend found her new husband via the Internet -- he is American has little use for Canada -- she moved down to live with him. A couple of year's ago he had to have a stent put in one of his arteries and his insurance covered $15,000 and he still owes $35,000. He has since established residency in Canada, they moved to a border town and he now has all his medical concerns looked after at no charge in Canada. My friend used to return to Canada every six months in order to access free medical service -- she said they could not afford the premiums for both of them. (She wasn't hurting money-wise). There is some pressure here to adopt the American style of health care == lots of private clinics popping up, but the regular Joe can't afford to access their service.

I will say that if you have the money, the American system would be better because you can access high tech medical help without waiting in line.
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Thanks Mari, very informative. I really know very little about the Canadian way of life.

The trouble is, most Americans are not rolling in dough and can't afford the premiums, and some don't qualify for any economical plans d/t health care issues like diabetes, CAD, etc. The public aid recipients are using the Emergency Rooms as their source of routine medical care and abusing the system. Anyone who is too obese to work can get disability payments. If you smoke yourself into COPD, again: disability payments from the government!

WheW!!! I am hopeful that Mr Obama can start to turn the tide for us and get the health care system back on track.



The trouble is, most Americans are not rolling in dough and can't afford the premiums, and some don't qualify for any economical plans d/t health care issues like diabetes, CAD, etc. The public aid recipients are using the Emergency Rooms as their source of routine medical care and abusing the system. .
The same problem exists in Canada -- most Canadians could not access total medical assistance without paying high premiums therefore you would have some very sick people die simply because they can't afford to access the help they need.

There is a lot of abuse of the system here -- and if just half was fixed there would be better access and shorter waiting times and of course the cost would be lower.

I have no answers to the problem.
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Fawnie, that is a very interesting question, and thanks Mari, you have summarized it better than me! I don't understand what you say about most Canadians could not access total medical assistance without paying high premiums...I only know in Quebec, beside being the province that has the higher taxes to pay in the whole America, we also need to pay premiums through our income taxes for pills, it is a % of your salary but I thought everything else was free? Can you give me an example?

We are just waiting 5 min. at the McDonald and we get "pissed" imagine when you are very sick and you have to wait 6 to 12 hours at the ER before a Doctor sees you, and the abuse is usually from people that go to the ER when they only have a cold or they have a stomach pain because they had too much pizza, this is one of the reasons the system is congested.

I think most Canadians can't even imagine this can be taking away. We take for granted what we have and I say nothing is eternally. We didn't have this actual system before 1970. The government can't no longer support it and that is why they are allowing many private clinics so that also means less available doctors for the public sector and many Doctors move in USA to triple their incomes.

And Fawnie neither do I don't mean to be disrespectful, and it's good that we all have an opinion! Micheal More reminds me of Dr Phil "he tells it like it is", and one interview he did that shocked me is about a guy that got his 2 fingers cut and to put back one finger it will cost him $12,000 and the other one will cost $60,000 (why the big difference?) so he finally had to choose the $12,000 'cause he can't afford paying $60,000, so adios the middle finger. This is unthinkable in Canada but there are other injustices such as you will wait 2 years for a hip replacement, and in this 2 years your condition will deteriorate and the pain that comes with it. So people who have the $ go to foreign countries and it's immediately done. Conclusion: If you don't have $ you are screwed!

I wish someone can explain France system, it seems to be the best one, I heard faster the doctor put you back on your feet, greater his or her pay check will be, if he doesn't put you back fast on your feet, his pay check will be less. Everyone has to pay around $5 for a check up. Is this the best system?
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Fawnie, that is a very interesting question, and thanks Mari, you have summarized it better than me! I don't understand what you say about most Canadians could not access total medical assistance without paying high premiums ....

... the abuse is usually from people that go to the ER when they only have a cold or they have a stomach pain because they had too much pizza, this is one of the reasons the system is congested.

... there are other injustices such as you will wait 2 years for a hip replacement, and in this 2 years your condition will deteriorate and the pain that comes with it. So people who have the $ go to foreign countries and it's immediately done. Conclusion: If you don't have $ you are screwed!

I wish someone can explain France system, it seems to be the best one, I heard faster the doctor put you back on your feet, greater his or her pay check will be, if he doesn't put you back fast on your feet, his pay check will be less. Everyone has to pay around $5 for a check up. Is this the best system?
mariepop: I wasn't clear in expressing myself -- what I meant to say clearly is that if Canadians didn't have free health care most could not afford the high insurance rates
for what we now have free.

You are absolutely correct in saying that there is great abuse of the system. You have to experience it to believe what some people do -- I have gone to the ER which is supposed to be for emergencies and it's clogged with people who do not have anything more than a cold.

There is a shortage of doctors -- yet there are many qualified foreign doctors in Canada who cannot get a licence to practice even though they pass the exam. Also taxpayers subsidize medical students while they are in university -- yet they don't have to stay in Canada after they graduate -- they can choose to practice in any other country and where they can get the bigger bucks.

I injured my left knee when I was in my early twenties -- it has always been painful and has limited my ability to do a lot of things. Three year's ago I had a MRI and was told I needed a knee replacement -- no way I thought -- started on some herbal medications and I don't have any pain any longer -- I can walk for 3 hours with no problems. Go figure. I was told the wait time for a knee replacement was 3 months.

My niece returned to Canada from France about 4 year's ago after she had her first child -- I have no knowledge of the system there but she told me the French health system was not good. I can't comment on her accuracy.

In Ontario one statistic I saw was that there are over a half a million people with illegal health cards -- I'm sure it's the same in Quebec. So the abuse of the system means the cost is higher so the taxes are higher.

When you complain about taxation you have to have another model to compare it to, taxes may be lower somewhere else but maybe what they get in return is much less. for instance I now own a home that is the same size, and located in the same size community as one I lived in several year's ago. Where I now live, everything is extra on top of your property taxes. In comparing my present property taxes with my former home -- I'm paying $1,500 a year more for what?
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WOW mari, it was a good thing that there was a waiting, you found an alternative and the best of all you did not have a surgery and the pain is gone! I got a feeling that the pain would have remained after the surgery. I got few friends who had surgery for their shoulder and they pain is still there, until I did Reiki on them and after few treatment, their pain is gone.

I also have sensative knees (Capricorn's knees) if I ski too much (downhill), jogging is out of question. I'm curious to know what herbal you took and are you still taking them? What works for me is glucosamine and Reiki.
I take gluscosamine & chondroitine (500/400) and celadrin (350) plus Nutri-flex (complete joint formula -- I was told hockey players take this supplement) and of course Omega 300. sounds like a lot but I avoided an operation and my knees feel better than ever.
Wow thanks Mari for the tip on Nurti-Flex! And it's a liquid so fast-acting too.
I googled it (Google Queen) and the ingred look good:

"NUTRI-FLEX INGREDIENTS\t
1 tablespoon contains (15 ml) provides:\t
Glucosamine Hydrochloride\t1500 mg
Vitamin D3 1000 IU\t


Hydrolyzed Gelatin\t1500 mg
MSM (Methyl Sulfonyl Methane)\t1000 mg
Bromelain Extract\t160 mg
Turmeric Extract\t150 mg
Devil's Claw Extract\t150 mg
Boswellia Extract\t150 mg
In a base of natural fruit flavours sweetened with Stevia and water. Contains potassium sorbate to preserve"

And there is a veterinary formula too! (hmmm, could be cheaper....)\t

I have always heard that Vitamin C has to be taken with MSM in a 1:2 ratio at least for it to do its thing. Do you take any C with it?

Michael Moore has to be taken with a big grain of salt - he's a sensationalist trying to make a point but his facts are a little iffy. He likes to skew things.

There are more and more Quick Care clinics attached to ERs and in free-standing clinics around the US to take the load off the ERs, but they are packed to the gills too with drug-seekers and such. Please Mr Obama, help us!



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Fawnie just a fact for you id thought you may like here in the Uk we will accept anyone from any country if they are here for a short or long stay visa with medical help when in the canada, australia etc they will not give you any sort of medical help unless you pay privately to see someone, seems crazy to me, i think anyway!

However though the amount of people in the UK trying to leave cause life, economy is getting so bad in this country kind of out weighs the good we have here too! Um
Fawnie just a fact for you id thought you may like here in the Uk we will accept anyone from any country if they are here for a short or long stay visa with medical help when in the canada, australia etc they will not give you any sort of medical help unless you pay privately to see someone, seems crazy to me, i think anyway!

However though the amount of people in the UK trying to leave cause life, economy is getting so bad in this country kind of out weighs the good we have here too! Um
There was an article in one of the National papers yesterday about mothers coming to Canada to have their babies -- and leaving without paying ---- of course, the child becomes a Canadian citizen immediately --looking to the future?
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Wow thanks Mari for the tip on Nurti-Flex! And it's a liquid so fast-acting too.

And there is a veterinary formula too! (hmmm, could be cheaper....)\t

I have always heard that Vitamin C has to be taken with MSM in a 1:2 ratio at least for it to do its thing. Do you take any C with it?


There are more and more Quick Care clinics attached to ERs and in free-standing clinics around the US to take the load off the ERs, but they are packed to the gills too with drug-seekers and such. Please Mr Obama, help us!
fawnie -- you break me up -- I bet the veterinary formula is twice as expensive! I take a Vit C tablet a day -- but with all the other fruit I eat I think I'm covered there.

A woman I met at the Health Food store suggested I take "Greens with energy" -- I have been and it also helps.

We now have "express ERs", free standing clinics and nurse practictioners helping out. My solution to unclog the ERs is to make everyone pay a small fee unless they're brought in by ambulance. Drugees are a problem here too -- in some hospitals they have police/security guards stationed in ERS.
There was an article in one of the National papers yesterday about mothers coming to Canada to have their babies -- and leaving without paying ---- of course, the child becomes a Canadian citizen immediately --looking to the future?
So are they not paying there hospital fee, how checky too cause i suppose when the child grows up it will have a home where it mum originally came from and in Canada!

I have heard though some horror storys from mums that have had babys under the NHS system here one of my friends for example was in labour for 4 days till they realised she could not give birth properly and gave her a c section!

I have heard too that immagration is becoming a problem in Canada as apparently this is why you guys are getting more problems too in the country?
Shame really if it is true as i think canada is great city personally
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I have heard too that immagration is becoming a problem in Canada as apparently this is why you guys are getting more problems too in the country?
Shame really if it is true as i think canada is great city personally
For the first time in years there are more people applying to enter Canada from Britain.

The only problem I see with immigration from some countries is that they want all the benefits they can get but are not interested in Canadian values or the way of life -- little ghettos are springing up.
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You dont want any of that, Im suprised immagration are not sticter with whome they bring into the country too, but i know also they were always looking for Brits etc to move out to Canada too, i think!! are Canadian values quite similar to us Brits or am i wrong?
You dont want any of that, Im suprised immagration are not sticter with whome they bring into the country too, but i know also they were always looking for Brits etc to move out to Canada too, i think!! are Canadian values quite similar to us Brits or am i wrong?
The immigration rules are quite strict -- but we have lots of illegals entering the country -- there is sort of an underground market for cheap labour. After a while they apply for citizenship hoping they will be admitted on humatarian grounds.

As far as values of one country to another -- I suppose you could say that --since we still recognize the monarchy and most of our governing system is based on the English model. However Canada is a huge country -- and there is much diversity both in nationality as well as personal values.
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