That's somewhat interesting. So you are saying instead of taking high doses at once, we split it up throughout the day? I think I've heard others saying that this is optimal as well.

What about the factor that only about 5-20% of Vitamin C survives the digestive system? This is why Liposomal Vitamin C exists. So even with Liposomal Vitamin C, it's probably best to split it up throughout the day, right?

 

wow thanks for this is really helpful
poundland is always good for a bargain

 

@Lionz23
Good thread!

Unfortunately, people here are focused on their complexion and they neglect or deny the illness which can appear later.
For me, the greatest damage is being caused by DIY LA lotion some kind of cream that continuously acidifies the body.

 

@Lionz23 Good thread! Unfortunately, people here are focused on their complexion and they neglect or deny the illness which can appear later.  For me, the greatest damage is being caused by DIY LA lotion some kind of cream that continuously acidifies the body.                                                                                                                               

@titi I use amlactin lotion (added 4 tbls of 90% lactic acid) to it. Is this the DIY lotion you are referring to? What are the dangers for extended use? What do you recommend. Please educate us. I no want bleach come die O!.

 

• @lionz23 thank you so much for the info, I will reduce my vitamin c intake.

 

Pls what of injection vit c?

 

Oh wow...

 

Hi Titi, a lot of us use DIY la. Do you mind elaborating on the dangers of the lotion. Am using natural lighteners and DIY la lotion. I am very cautious of what I use on my body, and this really got me thinking. I researched it and it's recommended by many on this forum. Btw, mine is 12%, I use it twice or thrice a week. I'll appreciate your response. Thank you.

 

@Zoczy from what i know vitamin c is generally not destroyed when processed by your digestive system, once your body has the maximum amount of vitamin c, any extra will be removed from your body when you urinate, your kidneys will be doing the work of removing the extra vitamin C. extra vitamins can NOT be stored in the body or used.. good luck

 

@kendal2014 glad my efforts are being taken in to consideration. x

 

@Lightupme
i myself am not a big fan of injecting anything, injecting Vitamin C is exactly the same as eating it. all you are doing is introducing Vitamin C in to your blood stream, which your body will use. tablets are much more cheaper, safer, quicker, cleaner. i would go with tablets. it does the same thing as injecting. however scientific evidence has show if you take vitamin tablets with or after eating something fatty like milk / fish. the body can absorb the Vitamin quicker and more effectively.

 

No way is that true, injecting is not the same as eating. Intravenous Vitamin C is known to be way more effective than oral Vitamin C. People have been brought from the brink of death with high doses of Intravenous Vitamin C. There is also definitely, without a doubt, an absorption issue with oral Vitamin C. I've heard figures of between 5-20% absorption only, the rest being used up in the digestive process (hence why oral Vitamin C can easily produce runny bowels but if injected or Liposomal it will not). This is why Liposomal Vitamin C now exists, which boasts 85% or more absorption. A guy in New Zealand who was brought from the brink of death and cured of his swine flu, cancer and god-knows-what-else using high-dose intravenous Vitamin C now takes Liposomal Vitamin C to maintain his perfect health. A lifetime expert on Vitamin C and his colleagues concluded that oral Vitamin C is OK, however not as good as Liposomal Vitamin C, or intravenous. This expert and his wife both died at very old ages of cancer despite taking super-doses of Vitamin C daily. I don't remember his name.

I also never get sick, my diet has always been rich in Vitamin C and other anti-oxidants. This winter I was around several people who had colds, and they chose to be right up in my face, and even gave me big hugs as well. I didn't get sick at all. However I do think I did get the cold, because one day I felt a very, very slight tickling in my throat and a very slight body temperature increase, but that was it. I currently inject 2000mg of Vitamin C a week, and in the long term I'll probably be taking it in Liposomal form daily. I don't think I'll ever get sick.

 

Sorry, your sources aren't very creditable, (a blog, youtube, etc) definitely not worth me reevaluating how much C I take or when I take it. Gonna have to work a little harder than this to change my mind I didn't just start taking Vit C, and I take more than 1,000mgs a day, and have for YEARS!! Vit D, I take 2 1/2 times the amount of C .........which is a whole other topic :sunshine: I am not one who reads clinical studies and decides which direction to go based on what I've read. I am one that believes in order to know exactly what your body is lacking requires regular blood tests. I see a Dr who regulates every vitamin I take, and yes, I have blood tests taken to be sure I am within a certain range. Then adjust according to that. Now, if you want some good reads here are a few........ http://www.mayoclinic.org/vitamin-c/expert-answers/faq-20058030 http://oregonstate.edu/ua/ncs/archives/2013/dec/review-most-clinical-studies-vitamins-flawed-poor-methodology It's important for each individual to do their OWN research and decide on what THEY believe is right for them. Each persons health, diet, weight, and specific needs plays a HUGE role.

 

It's important for each individual to do their OWN research and decide on what THEY believe is right for them. Each persons health, diet, weight, and specifics needs plays a HUGE role.

Well said Gymmie.

 

There are a lot of medical students on this forum in case you don't know that already. 500 TO 1000mg of vitamin c is pretty standard. there are other things in one's diet that will weigh down the kidney before vitamin c does and you know that very well. The only thing that excess dosage of vitamin c causes is calcium oxalate stone. And for that to happen is a wild chance cos we both know that you are ten times more like to get a calcium phosphate stones before you get an oxalate stone. Tell me that one vitamin that it's deficiency causes very single disease known to man? Moreover it is water soluble and from what i learnt large doses of vitamin c doesn't immediately cause the oxalate stone. first of all there has to be a predisposition to it due to other comorbidities. Finally if you want to erode all your enamel continue chewing vitamin c chewables. You also mentioned that they should get flavored ones. Now anybody that knows anything about health will stay away from flavored things of any type.

 

litaamust as a medical student what is your opinion on breaking up doses? I take 1000 mg in the morning and 1000 mg at night, and my body has never felt better. I also get a blood panel done every 6 months to 1 year, and I am in optimum IU levels for everything so I would not prefer to change my dose. However would there be a higher % that would be absorbed and utilized if I was to use my pill cutter and break up 2 1000 mg pills into 4 500 mg pills and take it every 4 hours?

 

See i think it's fine. These things happens only when you are grossly overdosing. I know this because last semester i was prescribed 5000 and up mg of vitamin c daily for constipation. I researched it and went back and spoke to the teacher and she told me the same thing. Vitamin c is the least harmful thing you body will ever encounter. Breaking dosages is very important as it helps absorption. The reason you feel good is cos vitamin c is needed by every single system in the body for optimum function. I have come across case studies where all the symptoms and clinical presentations were pointing to all sorts of thing only for the answer to always end up to be vitamin c deficiency, you name them from dementia to neurological issue, and thats because all the nerves in the body are involved. For us women it is good too especially if you are about to hit menopause cos of decreased estrogen and decreased osteoblatic activity. Vitamin c is good it helps in formation of collagen fibers by allowing the hydroxylation of proline to take place. this helps in forming bone matrix. If you have people in your family with osteoporosis vitamin c and d are the basic vitamins you should take if you do not not want future bone issues or if you do not plan on hormone replacement therapy which everyone knows causes cancer. Prevention is better than cure.

 

See i think it's fine. These things happens only when you are grossly overdosing. I know this because last semester i was prescribed 5000 and up mg of vitamin c daily for constipation. I researched it and went back and spoke to the teacher and she told me the same thing. Vitamin c is the least harmful thing you body will ever encounter. Breaking dosages is very important as it helps absorption. The reason you feel good is cos vitamin c is needed by every single system in the body for optimum function. I have come across case studies where all the symptoms and clinical presentations were pointing to all sorts of thing only for the answer to always end up to be vitamin c deficiency, you name them from dementia to neurological issue, and thats because all the nerves in the body are involved. For us women it is good too especially if you are about to hit menopause cos of decreased estrogen and decreased osteoblatic activity. Vitamin c is good it helps in formation of collagen fibers by allowing the hydroxylation of proline to take place. this helps in forming bone matrix. If you have people in your family with osteoporosis vitamin c and d are the basic vitamins you should take if you do not not want future bone issues or if you do not plan on hormone replacement therapy which everyone knows causes cancer. Prevention is better than cure.

It's funny because my closest friends say all the time.........gymmie you are NEVER sick. (runs to knock on wood) but you know, they are right. Granted, I will get the normal runny nose, or upset stomach here and there, but rarely am I sick with a major cold etc. I know without a doubt it is because of the vitamins I take. Many of my friends don't even take a multi. And this has nothing to do with the food I eat. I am not a good eater..........well I am, but I don't eat nearly enough of what I should eat. I also am an avid runner.......which means I should be eating even more than the average. BUT..........I don't. I take my vitamins faithfully, AM and PM. I drink a whey shake faithfully every AM that I throw spinach, kale, almond milk along with a few ice cubes, blend it up, drink it and get on with my day. I don't eat fast food nor do I eat meat............but I do love my sweets . Without taking the vitamins that I do, I would be a ship wreck!! No way would I be able to run the miles I do without the vitamins I take!! I am a BIG believer that prevention is better than a cure!! Also why I am a big believer in getting mamagrams, blood tests, paps, whatever it is that us woman need!! As for men.............ya well thats a work in progress. You can preach it to them, but this doesn't mean they are going to actually take your advice and take action. My husband gags on his multi, as I can throw back 10 vitamins at a time, with a few swallows of water. :hehe: Again, we are all different, and we all have to find what works for us and OUR bodies.......and learn to do our own research to decide.

 

Am leaning every day on this forum t'ks guys

 

So what if I crush some vitamin C tablets and use it for my DIY serum?

 

To those who are taking information from those with no medical training at all, i myself have came across study's of people who damaged their kidneys from overdosing on vitamins to become lighter, loose weight, etc etc. And this did not happen overnight, this happened well after people stopped, the condition cam back to haunt them. Overdosing from vitamin C is very possible, also the reason injecting with out doctors knowledge is dangerous is because, when eaten the body knows when to stop intake when no more is required, however when injected the body is almost forced to absorb it all. This is the reason injections are mainly prescribed to those whose body can not naturally absorb it therefore are prescribed massive dosages because they are heavily in need of it.

http://www.livestrong.com/article/421776-side-effects-of-a-vitamin-c-overdose/

Side Effects of a Vitamin C Overdose Last Updated: Jan 22, 2014 | By Adam Cloe
Vitamin C is a water-soluble vitamin that is found in many fruits and vegetables. Vitamin C plays an important role in collagen formation, and it also functions as an antioxidant, boosting the immune system. Although you need to consume vitamin C every day, too much can be toxic.
Upper Limit The tolerable upper limit is the maximum amount of a vitamin you can take each day without experiencing any ill effects. According to The Merck Manuals Online Medical Library, the tolerable upper limit for vitamin C is 2,000 mg per day, or 2 g. Anything above this amount could be considered as an overdose.
Gastrointestinal Problems Common side effects of vitamin C overdose involve the digestive tract. If you consume more than 2,000 mg of vitamin C, you may develop severe gastrointestinal irritation and diarrhea. In addition to significant discomfort, extended episodes of diarrhea or vomiting can lead to dehydration, causing extreme thirst, fatigue, low urine output and reduced blood pressure. Diarrhea and vomiting can also cause additional mineral imbalances in the body.
Kidney Stones Vitamin C is broken down by the body into a substance called oxalate. Some oxalate is secreted in urine, however high urinary oxalate levels may cause formation of deposits, known as kidney stones. High vitamin C intake is associated with an increased risk of oxalate kidney stones -- accounting for approximately 80 percent of all kidney stones.

Hemochromatosis Hemochromatosis is a condition caused by excess iron build-up in the body. This condition is commonly inherited, and most often affects the liver, heart and pancreas. Vitamin C helps the body absorb iron. Although vitamin C overdose does not cause hemochromatosis, it can worsen the condition.

Oral vs Injection

http://www.livestrong.com/article/491560-is-a-vitamin-c-injection-better-than-taking-it-orally/
Speed If you have a severe deficiency, your doctor might recommend injections. Intramuscular injections will act faster than pills because they get into your system faster. This is essential in cases of scurvy.
Strength With an injection, a patient can receive a larger dosage at once. Common strengths for vitamin C injections are 500 mg to 1 g. However, it’s possible to give very large amounts of up to 25 g if needed. If you need to treat a serious deficiency, it would be difficult to get such high amounts in the form of a pill.
Absorption According to researchers from the National Institute of Diabetes & Digestive & Kidney Diseases, there’s a limit to how much vitamin C your body can absorb at once via the oral route. However, your body can absorb the full dose of vitamin C when administered via an injection. If giving very large dosages, injections will be more effective.
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Not to mention many taking liquid Vitamin C injections are buying online, most online injections are mass produced in china and other asian places where cutting corners is a must. all i can say to those, is only god knows if the needles are clean and where they come from, also take your injection to a pharmacy and check what the contents are, i highly doubt its professional safe grade stuff at these kinds of prices.

Again i can only spread awareness to overdosing, cant really do more than that. good luck people.....

 

http://www.livestrong.com/article/421776-side-effects-of-a-vitamin-c-overdose/ Again i can only spread awareness to overdosing, cant really do more than that. good luck people.....

Again, Livestrong is not a source I would hold any value too when talking about Vit C. Livestrong is a website for healthy living. This is not a published study. Thank you for opinion on Vit C, but lets not get confused with FACTS VS FICTION information.

 

Thank you

 

I would really like to know how LA lotion is damaging for the body?

 

Its not damaging

 

Its not damaging
That's what I thought. I was very intrigued by this post Titi made

Quote:
Originally Posted by Titi
Unfortunately, people here are focused on their complexion and they neglect or deny the illness which can appear later.
For me, the greatest damage is being caused by DIY LA lotion some kind of cream that continuously acidifies the body.

 

Has vitamin c supplements made anyone break out? I have these boil-like acne on my forehead and they just won't heal. Every where else's is smooth and light but 3 annoying acne on my skull jus sucks...help me pls. I have switched up products to see if Nadinola is the culprit but I don't think so. However I did up my vitamin c supplement from 1 1000mg pill a day to 2 1000mg pills a day. Could this be the cause for these tiny boil-like bumps ? I have also dabbed retin a .1 to spot treat the acne but these minions won't dry up. I just need then to dry up. Thanks all

 

same yhing happened to me when ever I increased my vit c pilks to 2000mg I break out so the most I can take is 1000mg so u will have to reduce it back to 1000mg a day and the acne or pimple will go away

 

@ gymrat makes total sense . Thanks a bunch

 

Be sure to come back and let us know which was the culprit :thumbsup:. We can all learn from each other. I am acne prone myself. Dealt with it for WAY too many years. Changed my diet, stopped dairy, took this, took that, used this product, tried that product, took every antibiotic known to man kind, tried every topical, eventually ended up on Accutane. Haven't had an issue since. I will get the occasional 1-2 every now and again, but zero cystic like I used too. So I do know how frustrating it can be. It was devastating to me and I suffered myself for way too long with it. I am not saying Accutane is right for everyone but I sure wish I would have tried it sooner than I did!! Hang in there Gigi :five:

 

lionz23 sorry but some of ur info is faulty, for example vitamin c is a water soluble vitamin and eating oily fish does nothing for its absorption... Fat soluble vitamins are ADEK. And the body takes what it needs of the ascorbic acid and excretes the rest. The main part of the GI tract that can is the teeth due to the acidic nature of the vitamin.

 

Hey Gymmie is this combination good. Vitamin c crystal (from source natural) Glutathione reduced (jarrow formula) and asthaxanthine also from source natural.

 

Hey Gymmie is this combination good. Vitamin c crystal (from source natural) Glutathione reduced (jarrow formula) and asthaxanthine also from source natural.

Not sure if this will help you because everyone reacts differently. I currently take Vitamin C, glutathione (500 mg twice daily), glutathione SL (100 mg twice daily), NAC (500 mg twice daily) and alpha lipoic acid (600 mg twice daily) in addition to a multi-vitamin, flaxseed/fish/borage oil, and cinnamon. I've been on this for about 18 months now with good results. I take Vitamin D during the winter months only. I haven't taken asthaxanthine because there are some negative side effects I don't want. I took MSM for 3 weeks but had a bad reaction with horrid swelling so went off of it. I'd like to try MSM again at a low dose but am not sure if I should even try. When it comes to using dietary supplements always do the research and discontinue if you experience any negative side effects. Be aware that dietary supplements can interact with other medications including other dietary supplements. If you are trying to lose weight, MSM and milk thistle are two dietary supplements to avoid.

 

Stop the garbage scare tactics. The risk of kidney stones is VERY low. The same way the risk of orchronsis with HQ is very low. People such as yourself try and scare people without producing figures of the kidney stone incidences induced by vitamin c it is ridiculously low!

Dr Weils view.

Since each serving of this product is advertised to provide 1,000 mg of vitamin C, you're getting 2,000 to 3,000 mg daily. That's a lot. It probably won't hurt you - the risk of kidney stones is very low - but it won't help you either.
A water-soluble vitamin and powerful antioxidant, vitamin C also helps the body form and maintain connective tissue, including bones, blood vessels, and skin.
For the record, I used to recommend taking 2,000 to 6,000 mg of vitamin C daily (divided into three doses). However, in 1999 I lowered my recommendation to 200 to 500 mg (divided into two doses) after reviewing two well-designed studies showing that this amount of vitamin C more than saturates the body's tissues, and thus is sufficient to protect against cancer, heart disease and other chronic illnesses. One of the studies that influenced my decision analyzed clinical trials published in the April 21, 1999 issue of the Journal of the American Medical Association. It concluded that 200 mg a day is the maximum amount of vitamin C that human cells can absorb, making higher dosing on a daily basis pointless.
The second study came from the Linus Pauling Institute (Pauling himself took 18,000 mg of C per day) and was published in the June 1999 issue of the American Journal of Clinical Nutrition. It identified a similar dose, 120 to 200 mg, as the optimal amount for reducing the risk of cardiovascular disease, cancer, cataracts and other chronic conditions.
I wouldn't worry about the higher doses you've been getting. For those with extra oxidative stress, such as during a cold or flu, working in a smog-filled city, or living with a smoker, I often recommend an extra 1,000 mg. Vitamin C is water soluble, and the body can easily eliminate it. But you're probably just wasting money taking these higher doses.
Vitamin C is abundant in fresh vegetables and fruits. The best food sources include citrus fruits, red pepper and sweet potato.
Andrew Weil, M.D.

 

Stop the garbage scare tactics. The risk of kidney stones is VERY low. The same way the risk of orchronsis with HQ is very low. People such as yourself try and scare people without producing figures of the kidney stone incidences induced by vitamin c it is ridiculously low!

:five:

 

[quote There is no risk for taking vitamin c people need to do there research before posting misleading information.